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Mfer literally quoted Orban. Bruuuuh

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[–] flerp@lemm.ee 222 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Trump: makes incorrect claim

Moderator: Actually there is no evidence that happened

Trump: well I saw it on TV! Someone said it on TV! Someone wouldn't just go and say something on TV if it wasn't true!

Shouldn't the president of the country have a bit of higher standard of evidence than "I saw someone say it on TV"?

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 114 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"But I saw it on TV!" says the man currently saying untrue things on TV.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 36 points 2 months ago

Someone wouldn’t just go and say something on TV if it wasn’t true!

Not to mention the guy who popularized the term "fake news" back during his first campaign.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 57 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This was one of the many frustrating things about his Presidency. So many times he was reporting on what "someone" was saying was going on in the government. Motherfucker, you've got a big slice of the government working for you. Why don't you find out from them what's going on?

[–] carbonari_sandwich@lemm.ee 29 points 2 months ago

He spent a lot of his presidency watching Fox News and ignoring his briefings. Staff figured out pretty quickly that he likes pictures and compliments and tried to use those to help him get through minutes of material.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

Especially since he's probably the person who said it on TV. But, to answer your question, of course the president should have a higher standard, and the people should hold him to it. For some reason this asshole is still around despite being a living parody.

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[–] danjoubu@lemmy.world 181 points 2 months ago (18 children)

Moderators keep letting trump interrupt & talk over them. Bro just grow some balls & tell him to shut up & mute his shit

[–] sh00g@lemmy.zip 118 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have been disappointed by that as well but this has been astoundingly good as far as debates have gone. The immediate fact checking is long overdue. And frankly I look forward to pointing at Trump's extra speaking time as a bulwark against the "iT wAs BiAsEd By ThE lIbErAL mOdErAtOrS" complaints.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 84 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’ve been genuinely impressed by their real-time fact checking. They’re swatting away every wild thing he says calmly and with specific examples of the truth. These moderators are incredibly well-prepared.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Hopefully that's the standard from now on. Unless Donny finally kicks the bucket we're probably gonna be seeing more of him even if he loses in November

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[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

90% of the time Kamala finished her point perfectly before the mods started to interrupt. Respec

Trump...was his disgusting self

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

And the best part was that when they did interrupt her, she finished her sentence, then stopped talking

(Except for one time where it really looked like trump was gonna set her off but she still held up)

I think it's safe to say this is without a doubt the best performance we've seen from a candidate against Trump, which imo really speaks to her ability to keep her composure under pressure, which isn't easy, especially when everybody expects you to be absolutely flawless.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's cool, but I did like it when Biden told trump to shut up.

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[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thinking that same thing. For once just enforce the rules on this man baby

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The problem is that they would hone in on that and make the debate about that rather than Kamala. They took the L for her Win. It's shitty. But what they had to do to make her the focal point. He absolutely is gaslighting them to make it about what he wants.

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[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're afraid to be called unfair after he said that they'd be unfair. It's one of the strategies that us uses to suppress fighting back against his lies and ineptitude.

First, your preemptively accuse someone of something. Second you do awful things that would normally rightfully get a response, but the authorities have to be careful otherwise you'll accuse them of doing the thing they should be doing. Third, you get your way even though you broke the rules, or you get to yell about how you knew, just knew! That you'd be treated badly.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

This has been a complaint across a dozen debates for 8 years now.

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[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 124 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh hell naw. I'm maintaining my sanity by letting Jon Stewart tell me all about it afterwards:-).

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was so excited to watch the post show but it's on fucking Paramount+ and only comes the day after

[–] Mountain_Mike_420@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 months ago

It’s on YouTube if you haven’t seen it already. And it is glorious.

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 114 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Nah, I’m busy performing transgender operations on illegal immigrants that are in prison right now

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

Me next 👉👈🙄

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

Don't forget to do their abortions first

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 84 points 2 months ago

I watched it, and I usually skip debates because the summaries are more meaningful (it's usually just used for fluffy sound bites). This one just felt... Different? She baited the fuck out of him. There will be so many memes.

And yeah the moment he said the great Orban I fucking lost it, more at than the dog eating migrants and the post birth abortions. Like, Harris can't necessarily call that "ally" an asshole fascist but like, those of us in the know, know.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 72 points 2 months ago (8 children)

It's really astounding that Donald will lie his ass off about almost anything but can't muster the will to lie about protecting Ukraine. No rational person could think he intends to do anything but hand over Ukraine to Russia.

[–] General_Shenanigans@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

That’s exactly what he means by “ending the war” and it “never happening in the first place”

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[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago (3 children)

ABC is being pathetically weak in controlling Trump rebuttal time. They are letting him walk all over them.

[–] Tyrangle@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Harris campaign requested unmuted mics - it was Trump's team that was worried about him making an ass of himself with interruptions. With that in mind they might be letting him talk because it's what Harris wanted in the first place.

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Never interrupt your enemy in the middle of a mistake.

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[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 55 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I am waiting for it to come out in meme format.

[–] eguidarelli@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There’s going to be some good ones for sure

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[–] Venetas@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Harris: "You shouldn't have to fly to another state just to get the medical attention you need."

MAGA nutheads: "SHE HATES FLYING WITH POOR PEOPLE"

Holy shit, the brain gymnastics some people do on the net is astonishing.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)
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[–] DarkGamer@fedia.io 29 points 2 months ago

I can't watch the orange man without getting very angry about the shit he spews, so I couldn't watch it for very long. I understand he got trounced.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Switched over to Fox to see how they were going to spin it.

Hannity was like: "The moderators are lefties. It was 3-1 ."

Then he brought on Rubio, and I clicked away.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 months ago

Only losers blame the ref.

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

I was but had to turn it off after President Treason lied about people getting hurt on Jan 6

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

no, not like i like to stay uninformed, i just don't like to cringe

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even called him a strongman like it was a good thing.

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[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago

Kamala on fire

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Saw most of it. Actually surprised that fat orange held himself together for so long. Hes still not worth the trouble though

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

He was coherent but clearly uncomfortable, usually he's pretty confident.

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