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[–] Beacon@fedia.io 155 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Saying Jews are awesome is not a valid statement, because just like every group some of them are awesome, some are neutral, and some are awful. It should say something like "Jews are regular people"

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 145 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Replace it with two lines:

JEWS ARE PEOPLE
PALESTINIANS ARE ALSO PEOPLE

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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[–] reka@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (4 children)

if you can say "Humans are awesome", which you can whilst everyone knows the caveats to that, you can say Jews are awesome.

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[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago

That's not what "valid" means. This is an opinion, so you don't get to declare it invalid. You are free to disagree, though.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Jews are like everybody else"

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[–] pigup@lemmy.world 138 points 3 months ago (5 children)
[–] ReCursing@lemmings.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Oh, hey Chuck Tingle, nice to see you here

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oof, sorry, I think I've got the wrong address.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 months ago

me and bigfoot will fuck

Smell my finger

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 52 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (12 children)

Ok, now do one for the Uyghurs.

Edit: 23 people down voted so 23 people ITT support genocide.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Did you just pop in here with "All genocides matter"?

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[–] anas@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Nobody is stopping you from doing it.

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[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago (4 children)

That genocide doesn’t matter for…reasons.

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[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 9 points 3 months ago (9 children)

What should we be doing about the Uyghur genocide? What are you doing about it?

[–] Homescool@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (15 children)

What should we do about whataboutism? It seems to be a popular alternative to engagement.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago (12 children)

If we're talking death cults can we include Islam and Christianity?

[–] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely, some of them are the staunchest Zionists

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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago (5 children)
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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (9 children)

Also

  • Brotherly war is bad
  • Russians are awesome
  • "Russian world" is a dangerous mania
  • Russophobia is real
  • Ukraine will be free
  • Russia was under brutal dictators before
  • Russia is under brutal dictator again
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[–] lugal@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (39 children)

I would upvote without the last sentence. The Holocaust was a singular event as there have been many singular events, and none repeated itself, neither as tragedy nor as farce, but some of them rhyme

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Holocaust is a general term, and there have been others, here are some pictures of huge piles of skulls from the Cuban Holocaust done by the Spanish in the late 1800s:

https://www.latinamericanstudies.org/reconcentrado.htm

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[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

It is extremely dangerous and part of both the new Nazis and Zionist playbook to designate the Holocaust as a "singular event", implying that there was no genocide of similar scope before, or there could be after it.

Looking for example how Britain systematically stared more than 10 million people to death in India, the Holocaust isn't even the worst genocide in terms of absolute numbers.

In particular in Germany this "singularity" trope is heavily used as propaganda, of how Germany has learned from its history, when it didn't. New authoritarian measures? Cannot be compared because how dare you compare it to the rise of fascism, that lead to the one and only Holocaust?! Deliberate ramping up of racist rethoric accompanied by more violent hate crime? It is not the Holocaust so why are you saying it feels like the late 20s again?!

And of course subsequently: How dare you say Gaza is a concentration camp?! How can you imply any similarity between Israel and the Nazis?! You evil antisemite! Oh you are a renowned Jewish scholar that studied the Holocaust? Your parents have barely survived the concentration camps? Well you are against Israel so you are "alledgedly Jewish" or how about "self hating Jew"?

This is the actual discourse in Germany. Jews not aligned with Zionism are heavily targeted by Politicians and state bureaucrats in a heavily antisemitic manner. And this "Holocaust is singular" argumentation is part of it.

https://jewishcurrents.org/the-strange-logic-of-germanys-antisemitism-bureaucrats

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

I'd hang that on my house!

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago (18 children)

Hot takes - Judaism is just as bad as every other Abrahamic faith.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Judaism is better in one significant way: they find proselytizing offensive.

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[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (11 children)

The holocaust is happening again at the hands of the first victims?

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Tale as old as time.

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[–] suction@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah this nicely summarises the level of understanding of American internet teenagers about the Middle East.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I would hope at least this much, but ideally more. It probably depends on the American teenager though.

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