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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18634498

While the campaign paid in advance due to Asheville's policy for short-notice bookings, Trump has a long history of failing to pay cities for billed rally fees, leaving the White House in January 2021 with at least $850,000 in unpaid rally debt. Most of the bills are still unpaid, including more than $500,000 owed to The city of El Paso, Texas.

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[–] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 111 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The Trump campaign booked the smaller of two venues at the same complex in downtown Asheville for Wednesday's rally. The Thomas Wolfe Auditorium has a capacity of just 2,431 people, while a larger arena next door that is not hosting Trump has a capacity of 7,200.

Who’s not able to fill an arena now?

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 54 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Smaller venues look more full and televised it’s easy to lie about crowd size. Folks pointed out empty seats at a prior rally so I’m sure that’s why the decision was made.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Now we can make fun of him for picking an arena 1/3 the size and point out even he knows his numbers are bunk. Bonus points of we still get empty seats.

[–] Vanderdeckenscopilot@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Alot of the locals signed up for the free tickets with no intention of actually going.

Plus it's a Thursday afternoon. Most of his cult members are at one of their jobs.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

They should go and heckle him instead, have one just record it all

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

It's similar to when a guy shaves his pubes, hoping to make his dick appear bigger.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Harris should book the other one the same night.

Let's see who's the bigger draw.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 6 points 3 months ago

Campaign counterprogramming, I like it!

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 68 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Hope this catches on. Don’t get grifted. A trump never pays

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's the informal motto of House Trump:

A Trump never pays his debts

[–] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I know this is Latin, but I can't help hearing it like Vanilla Ice:

If there was a problem, Trump non solvit

Check out his debt while DJT devolves it

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I wish, this has been his MO since the eighties. He NEVER pays if he can wiggle out of it.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 40 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Trump has a long history of failing to pay cities for billed rally fees, leaving the White House in January 2021 with at least $850,000 in unpaid rally debt.

Wait, what? Why would the White House inherit Trump's rally debt? Doesn't that belong to his campaign?

Isn't it a federal crime to use taxpayer money to fund your reelection campaign?

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He left the White House. At the time he left the White House he had $850k in debt.

The sentence is vague but this is how I read it (mostly because, you’re right, the other way doesn’t make sense).

[–] OhmsLawn@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I believe that could have been worded better. Pretty sure it means that T owed 850,000 when he left the White House.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

the campaign paid in advance due to Asheville's policy for short-notice bookings

So it's a non-story, nothing to do with Trump.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

I put the following paragraph from the article in the summary for the original post:

While the campaign paid in advance due to Asheville's policy for short-notice bookings, Trump has a long history of failing to paycities for billed rally fees, leaving the White House in January 2021 with at least $850,000 in unpaid rally debt. Most of the bills are still unpaid, including more than $500,000 owed to the city of El Paso, Texas.

It seems some Lemmy clients don’t show the summary of cross posts.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Seriously no one should ever incur any expense based on trumps promise though. Everyone should make him pay up front. Especially his lawyers

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“This one trick will make you a shewed business man: don’t pay your bills.”

Shit, I’ve been doing that for years!

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Still more qualified than him.

Yes; that’s based on me only knowing you have one trait in common with him.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

They are learning, slowly.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

It is good that the cities and venues learn about Trumps' campaign habit of not paying the bills.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if he only got a rally every other week or even less because of this, especially in the campaign endgame?

[–] iconherder@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why Asheville? It’s a pretty heavily Democrat area of NC. Seems like an odd choice for a Trump rally.

[–] Reyali@lemm.ee 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It’s probably because it’s a city that has a large enough venue to host nearby rural folks who are his target demographic. If I had to guess, it will have low local attendance and the audience will largely be made up of people whining about Asheville and its residents.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

This is how it was in my region of California last time he was here. Lots of folks from the surrounding sub regions but not many from the core areas, its not like the Inland Empire is some leftist stronghold its just locals dont care about that trite culturally so ya can only get more younger populations of yuppies and the like. Note younger in this context means your family located here sometime after the 70s, and if you are talking to an old bastard that timescale is pushed back to the before ww2.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ah the liberal Asheville is smart enough to make him pay beforehand, but still not smart enough not to do business with a con man who wants to overthrow them

[–] morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 3 months ago

January 2021 with at least $850,000 in unpaid rally debt

Cool, so, any cities that he owes debt to, have them remove him from the election ballots in their state(s) until he pays what he owes.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I'd argue this is always good policy. Pay up front or no deal.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Hey somebody finally figured out out. I mean gas stations started doing this in the 90s at the very least.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Don’t stop there!