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Do dummies actually think she's more "radical" than Biden? Maybe if we beg madam hard enough she'll give us healthcare! copium

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[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 74 points 3 months ago (54 children)
[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago

"There are ways to get people's attention. This isn't it"

Something something inevitable.

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[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 58 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Her VP staff had an enormous turnover rate because she was such a horrible manager.

[–] Breath_Of_The_Snake@hexbear.net 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Former staffers said she never prepared for meetings. She resonates with vibes based people so much she operates off them instead of the briefings prepared for her, allegedly.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 55 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

had to go re-read that article for fun

Staffers who worked for Harris before she was vice president said one consistent problem was that Harris would refuse to wade into briefing materials prepared by staff members, then berate employees when she appeared unprepared.

“It’s clear that you’re not working with somebody who is willing to do the prep and the work,” one former staffer said. “With Kamala you have to put up with a constant amount of soul-destroying criticism and also her own lack of confidence. So you’re constantly sort of propping up a bully and it’s not really clear why.”

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Imagine going to a diplomatic meeting this unprepared lmao.

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago
[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 53 points 3 months ago (3 children)

She's presently a blank canvas that libs can project all of their own wants and desires on.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Funny enough the chuds pulled the same shit with Trump, still do to some extent too.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago

That was the cleverness of MAGA, say we’re going to make America great again, but avoid specifics about when it was last great or what made it great at that time. Let the piggies fill in the gaps for themselves.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

She's not a blank canvas though. She has a record, she has positions - and more importantly we know the positions she abandoned when she ran for president in 2020. That makes radlibs thinking she's going to be any different than Biden is silly

[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They did the same thing with Obama, projecting positions that he he had never held onto him to make him the candidate they wanted him to be.

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[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

Libs don't look at records or positions or policies. They watch someone talk a few times on TV and base their opinions on if they liked that TV

An empty pantsuit, if you will.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They only need to gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss the public for three more months. I could see them just riding the wave of letting people project their ideals onto her.

Of course that means it’s her election to lose, just like Hillary. So I’m trying not to underestimate her ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago (4 children)

This feels like a repeat of 2016, and back then I genuinely thought that Hillary was going to win.

All the polls pointed to Hillary winning and then she just lost.

It's going to repeat again for kamala

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[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Man, so if she wins we watch all the libs deride the left to 'give her time to change policy direction' from brunch her entire first term... or if Trump wins we get to watch them rediscover all the Biden policies they forgot they hated and have em blame the left for not turning out to fix them...hmm I can't decide which libererun i'd rather see.

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[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago

Walz is the cream of mushroom soup holding together the hot dish that is the Democratic party

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Well actually Trump is going to do genocide+ so you commies are the ones really responsible for supporting genocide.

[–] Ithorian@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago

If you were a real liberal you'd know that Biden isn't doing genocide it's just a very complicated situation.

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Pretty good. I always want to ask them what Trump would do that Biden hasn't but by this part of the argument, I'm usually so frothing mad that I'm calling them disgusting Nazi scum and getting banned from whatever forum we're on.

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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago

Its infuriating seeing people who should know better act like she's anything other than what we already know she is! Harris isn't an unknown quantity. We already know she is like every other neoliberal that ran in 2020, except she was even worse at running a campaign than any of them but Beto lol.

She's a complete ghoul and radlibs are pretending she might not do genocide because...? Vibes?

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago

something about the sheer force of the hopium makes me think she's going to explode into a fireball in the general. this is going way too smoothly for the democrats not to find a way to fuck it up.

[–] stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Only people on this site would get me when I say I’m utterly baffled how I’m watching the exact same force that “organically” coalesced to endorse Biden in 2020 when flattened-bernie was about to run away with it. Not like he would’ve done anything, but think about how much of a threat a negligible tax increase posed.

Absolutely terrifying how organized the bourgeois are. How do people not recognize that they’re just as subservient to US capital as the people of the CPP are to socialist characteristics

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

How do people not recognize that they’re just as subservient to US capital as the people of the CPP are to socialist characteristics

They recognize it just fine. They simply do not care. Remember a lot of Americans think of themselves as "temporarily embarrassed billionaires." Or their adherence to the white, cisshit, male power structure means they will gladly stamp out anything that threatens that power.

Despite the obviousness of the DNC rallying around Biden during the primary, they still got more people to vote along the party line. They still had to get the majority of votes for Biden and that's exactly what happened because so-called liberals want to uphold American hegemony more than they want healthcare or education.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They don’t care about Gaza. They don’t care whether or not she’s radical. They just say she is to piss you off. At the end of the day, Harris is in her white house. All is right with the world.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It seems like the media blob has decided to remove the mandate of heaven from Trump and give it to Harris. She has managed to stay untainted by Genocide Joe's regime and now she has the advantage of being seen as a blank slate that people can project whatever they want on.

If he campaign is smart and let her say as little as possible, she can probably keep the show going long enough to win.

Once in office things will be different as nothing will fundamentally change and the decay will continue, paving the way for whatever the next iteration of American fascism is going to look like.

[–] robinnn@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Well “pressure her”!! How? By saying we’ll still vote for her even after acknowledging she supports genocide!!

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 months ago

Them: We can push her to the left!

Me: Like the genocide protestors?

Them: No!

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[–] BeanBoy@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago

We did it with Biden and it worked! so-true

[–] milk_thief@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

citations-needed said something about a certain type of left lib needing a veneer to vote for BluTeam and dont really care otherwise

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It could very well be another Obama where people find excuses to handwave the disappointment. At the same time, Kamala is a charisma sink compared to Obama.

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[–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 months ago

I've had a lot of people in my life ask what I thought about Harris. I think people want to feel optimistic, and the idea that a person "from" a marginalized group could be in power provides that hope. Yes I know idpol. But most don't.

All we can do is the same we can always do: be informed, and patient with people. Ask probing questions to get people thinking. Most of our opinions are from feeling/imposed ideology, so engaging with ideas (What do you think Kamala will do that will be so good? What makes you think that? Etc.) can force people out of that state and get them to actually consider why. Saying she's a dirty capitalist cop that should face the wall probably won't help lol.

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