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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 219 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Isn't claiming territory that doesn't belong to you as yours the definition of imperialism?

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 98 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They get around this by using a version of Lenin's definition of imperialism. Lenin characterised imperialism as, in very simple terms, the way that powerful capitalist countries exploit poorer countries (or straight up colonies, especially considering the time in which Lenin was writing). Of course they use a version of this that specifically defines it as just literally anything the countries they don't like do, leading to ProleWiki insisting that Russia is not imperialist but Liechtenstein is

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Similarly to how 'reactionary' just means 'bad' to these people. For the record a 'reactionary' is somebody who wants to restore a previous status quo. It's not inherently good or bad.

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It all starts with a flag.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 136 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)

By this logic, Australia, America, India and a ton of other countries are still part of England.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 99 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"No, not like that!" - tankies

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 53 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Wait till Portugal and Spain get hold of this.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 52 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Most of England belongs to Rome!

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 19 points 3 months ago

Except for that northern bit across the wall.

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[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 67 points 3 months ago (4 children)

And Skyrim belongs to the Nords!

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[–] Fetus@lemmy.world 62 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Calling it North Korea and not the Democratic People's Republic of Korea?

[–] BigRedUndead@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Pretty sure you mean “Best Korea”

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[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 53 points 3 months ago (3 children)
  • USA belongs to Great Britain
  • England and France belongs to the Roman empire
  • Poland belongs to Prussia
[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (8 children)

England belongs to roman empire too.

Oh wait, does that mean US belongs to the roman empire all along?

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No countries are real. Everything belongs to everyone because our ancestors were there first.

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[–] missingno@fedia.io 49 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There's no possible way this isn't bait.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 53 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wish to return to the time where I could have agreed with you

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[–] echodot 49 points 3 months ago (10 children)

The US belongs to the UK. But you can keep the Bible belt, we don't want that bit.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago

if you don't support imperialism, you're supporting imperialism

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 44 points 3 months ago (2 children)

But Russia officially belongs to Mongolia

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (23 children)

It's a neat little trick how fascists say things that are the exact opposite of objective reality, and don't see the irony.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

It's part of the playbook. That's his you eliminate the possibility of a good criticism, everything becomes spiderman meme

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[–] AShadyRaven@lemmy.zip 40 points 3 months ago (14 children)

My favorite brand of rage is the kind i feel when someone says a bunch of evil things and then follows it with "if you disagree, youre the evil one"

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[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

TIL there are "'correct" .ml communities.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 months ago

Well there sure as hell are "incorrect" ones, apparently.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 25 points 3 months ago

!opensource@lemmy.ml and other open source projects are decent

As always, !linux@programming.dev and !opensource@programming.dev are here as alternatives

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[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Isn't people 'belonging' someone else a definition of slavery?

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

FWIW, the full list of disputed territories is much longer than you think. Basically, every map in existence is also picking sides whether they know it or not; a realization I find chilling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Within Russia, "imperialism" means "opposition of Russian imperialism", and "fascism" is just used as "opposition of not supporting the Russian government".

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[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Louisiana (Kansas, Missouri, Dakotas, Minnesota) belongs to France! 🇫🇷

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[–] cheddar@programming.dev 32 points 3 months ago

POV: you wrote anything anywhere and you don't have hexabear/lemmygrad/lemmyml blocked.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago

Imagine looking at millions of people living in the relatively prosperous democracy of South Korea and believing that all these people belong as chattel slaves of a monarch who starves his people and throws entire families into concentration camps to die if one member dares to speak out. Every regime supported here is a fascist dictator.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 28 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Most Communists I know of are very much pro-Rojava on account of their attempts to build a socialistic society.

Seems like a bait tweet to me.

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[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

"If you don't support the rights of these imperialistic fascist regimes to do imperialistic and fascist things then you are an imperialist and a fascist."

Yeah okay. Sure.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Did they provide any justification for the claim? Or is it just the usual "because I said so"?

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (19 children)
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[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 24 points 3 months ago

huh? isnt china the top imperialist in the list? who gained more land in the last decade? pfff lemmygrads are a special kind of stupid.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There are only wrong .ml communities

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[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

is this the hexbear manifestó

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[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can’t believe they would grandstand like that and leave out “America belongs to the natives”. Pretty weird.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do they even know what "imperialism" means?

[–] VitaminF@feddit.org 19 points 3 months ago

Their definition of imperialism is the USA, and only the USA.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Every lemmy.ml community is the wrong community to join.

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