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[–] grue@lemmy.world 77 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)
  • 2002 - W Bush
  • 2018 - Trump
  • 2019 - Trump

In contrast:

  • 2024 - Biden

But sure, keep telling us how Democratic administrations not acting like right-wing criminal shitstain Republicans is "hypocritical", but deliberately disregarding the vast difference in foreign policy between the two parties so you can screech "America bad!" even when it does the right thing somehow isn't.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

but deliberately disregarding the vast difference in foreign policy

You forgot Obama with Egypt, Libya, Ukraine, and the extra-judicial assassination of American Citizens.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

obama circa 2013 would like to better inform your opinion on the topic of defacto american foreign policy

i'll provide more examples from obama, clinton, and biden once i see a worthwhile response.

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[–] TheMinions@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Sometimes a hypocrite is nothing more than a man in the process of changing. -Brandon Sanderson

Just because someone did something horrible in the past it does not mean we cannot advocate for something good now.

People can change, bit by bit, moment by moment. Sometimes it might even be for the better.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

The US isn’t going to change. This is how they are. They meddle with the world and have been doing so throughout their history.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 months ago

The US isn't a person though. It is a system that relies on imperialist domination in order to survive. Do you have evidence that the system has fundamentally changed away from that? Because that would be some pretty miraculous evidence.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Except that history consistently shows that the fascist burgerland regime is always on the wrong side of history.

[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Besides maybe the second world war.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

US actually supported the nazis initially, and many US companies continued to work with them well into the war. Famously, IBM played a pivotal role in making the holocaust possible. Ford also eagerly collaborated with the nazis, which greatly enhanced its business prospects and at the same time helped Hitler prepare for war.

[–] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 months ago

USA hypocrisy is theatrics to get to make rules and order everyone around with a sanctimonious attitude.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

This is how I feel watching young American be mad at Israel for doing things that the Americans did to my people and never even apologized for

[–] craigers@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Idk if hypocrisy is intentionally misspelled but if it is that's pretty clever

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's crazy


hypercrazy, if you will.

[–] lulztard@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Terrorist nations gonna terrorist. The list of US-couped governments is pretty long.

[–] FatherGascown@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The world would be much better off without the USA.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure the superpower that fills the void will be the paragon of morality

[–] FatherGascown@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

At least it won't be that fascist-filled shithole. There's a hole in the world like a great black pit, and it goes by the name of 'Murica.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As an empire, yes. That doesn't mean we want American people to suffer (I say this as a European who also thinks European imperialist countries should suffer the same fate)

[–] FatherGascown@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I agree with you, but it's also true that imperialism is way deeper rooted in the American forma mentis than it is in most European.