"Forever mouse"
"Supported by paid subscription service"
this post was submitted on 29 Jul 2024
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Forever mouse
Oh nice, a mouse I pay for once and will keep using forever? 
I pay once? 
Why the hell does a mouse need software updates? It points and it clicks. That's it. No need to make it any more complex.
Macros/reprogramability/DPI changes. In theory they could improve the macros. But like macros should be a pretty solved problem at this point.
Doesn't the universal HID standard cover all that? It removed the need for frickin drivers, but I guess we're going back with all the rgb spyware
Macros and DPI settings? No.
The mouse will still work, but you're stuck with the default settings. The mouse still uses the generic driver, it's just the software reprograms the mouse to do your macros, or run at a non insane DPI.
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Their software doesn't even work correctly with some games and who knows when they'll fix it, for example I have a g502 and in order to use a mouse click in a macro I have to run their software in admin mode. This was a fix I only found on reddit 3 years ago and still no change.
Imagine it's like your Rolex, the CEO says to the journalist who probably makes like 70k/year if they're lucky
But also Rolexes don’t have subscription fees
Are smart watches too gauche for Rolex?
Probably. They don't even do digital displays, do they?
Sounds just like a Rolex, really expensive and not worth the money.
Weren't old rolexes somewhat affordable and really durable? Like during the 40's weren't they cheap?
It depends but yeah, Rolex weren't a super luxury brand until they featured heavily in the Bond movies and when swiss watches were worn by pilots and got some prestige. That's also one of the cheaper ones to buy nowadays (2000~USD) since a ton of pilots would buy them so they are the 'mass-produced rolexes'
I'm sure the early watches were cheaper, but idk much about watches. I've used my phone as a watch for 20+ years at this point
Rent seeking shit. Capitalists are the fucking worst.
Some of those old Logitech mice basically do last forever.
Moving away from planned obsolescence by making everything a subscription model instead is so comically capitalism-brained.
So you pay a subscription for software updates to your mouse.
Yeah, and you never have to worry about it again
fundamentally not now subscriptions work. in fact, exactly the opposite.
I worry about the monthly charges every month when I check my credit card bill. I would never stop worrying about my mouse.
Wait. So now I have to pay a subscription for my mouse?! So it's a forever mouse I forever have to make payments to?
This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard of.
fucking vampires. are they also gonna bill you for each click?
Think about it like a diamond-encrusted mouse.
but it's not going to be diamond-encrusted, is it? it's going to be another thing with which to spy on you. i don't know if anyone's falling for the subscription = premium bs anymore, no matter how fancy it might look like. besides, you get a mouse for its functionality. there's stuff like programmable lights & ofc the brand name itself adds to the cost. but like, you can just get a cheap, basic mouse if that's all you need.
i hope i'm making sense here. shit like this makes me irrationally angry.
are they also gonna bill you for each click?
god don't give them any ideas
ClickCoin.
bill you for each click
These fucking parasites want a subscription for a mouse 
subscription
never have to worry about it again
I don't think it works like that
Imagine it’s like your Rolex
The rage when I read this, gonna go
So it's not even a mouse designed to last forever, but a mouse leasing program with free replacements.
Or, when your old mouse breaks, order a replacement, put the broken one in the box and return it. Free replacements for as long as they keep making that mouse
We give you one mouse, you pay us for 50.
like. i've never had a mouse break, or had to pay for software updates. because a mouse doesn't fucking need software updates.
stop acting like you invented something other than a new scheme for extracting money from your victims. assholes.
"Always online" as a requirement for your fucking mouse to work.
My mouse already lasts forever and it doesn't have a subscription service.
Damn, mine keep breaking every 5 or 6 years of heavy use
I've never had a (quality) mouse break on me. The closest to broke I have is my current mionix mouse has something wrong with the cable and sometimes if it's bent just the right way it stops working. But as soon as I adjust the mouse cable it works. This issue only happens like 5 times a year, and it's my mouse at work so I've never bothered to replace it. Outside of that in 20 years I've never had a mouse fail. Same with stick drift on controllers. Honestly I think it's just user error.
This might be good, actually. If they are just charging for driver and hardware client upgrades, you can just use a generic or open source driver.
yeah, i cracked my computer mouse to run a homebrew FW so I can use the open source drivers.
Do Rolexes have a software subscription now? I'm not very dripped out this isn't my area of expertise, and this woman sounds pretty "out there"
I have a Logitech Trackman Wheel from circa 2004, and it works just fine, thank you.
At work I have the wireless equivalent from around 2015? It works fine, too, but isn't better than the old one in any way, plus you have to worry about pairing the dongle and replacing the battery.
Scrolled through the interview because I couldn’t believe these quotes were real. From the parts I skimmed this woman seems comically vapid, speaking mostly in buzzwords. Though she is talking to a journalist, maybe she just knows she can’t say what she really thinks about Logitech.
Best part I saw, right before the bits about the rent-a-mouse, was when the interviewer offhandedly mentioned smart homes. And she said (paraphrasing) “those are discontinued.” So the interviewer asks what people who bought smart homes will do and she answers:
We’ll continue to support, of course, what we’ve sold for some time.
Which we can agree is probably a blatant lie unless smart home owners would have grounds to sue. And then almost immediately after that they start talking about her new forever mouse.
Can there just please be foss linux software for controlling the lighting that works well please. Solaar doesnt detect my g203 for some reason
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Bro Logitech couldn't even pay me to use their crappy mouse software. I remap my shit using a different software and never touch ghub at all.
Unless they enforce the hardware to connect to the internet and verify an active subscription i dont see how they'll get anyone to pay for this
cool idea dude but i think what I'm going to go ahead and do is just buy a new one and return your planned obsolent trash back to you in the same box
Are you ready for subscription level replacement parts?
It would be a shame if your scrollwheel would die every 3 months and be a $30 replacement before $10 shipping.
Replacement buttons every year or so...
They want your business forever. They can't do that for free, they need you to keep paying them regularly.
Covid fucked this country up in so many ways. Most of us are forever renters in fucking everything
This makes the 1776 cosplaying characters extremely funny. Americans are so subservient to anything capital says, and again, have been since Covid
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watch this space for standard hid protocol shenanigans
"To re-enable two-button mouse mode and disable this reminder screen, please update your payment information." 
I've been using a g502 for over 10 years. The braided cord is completely fucked and the material over the plastic on the bottom is all gone but it still works great
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