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[–] jeremy@midwest.social 398 points 1 year ago (15 children)
[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago

People always chime in with stories about how chiropractors helped them with XY and Z problem they were having.

And overall I don't doubt them. There's a lot of things that can go wrong with your spine or other joints, and I'm certain that some of them can be addressed by physically manipulating and adjusting it.

But the basic premise of chiropractic treatments is that basically all human ailments can be fixed in that way, which should sound like total bullshit to anyone with half a brain. And that's before you get into all spiritual nonsense that pervades a lot of the field.

Now some of them understand that that's a load of bullshit and may even be realistic about the things they can treat, but it can be pretty damn hard to sort them out from the ones who think that your pancreatic cancer is caused by ghosts in your spine and they know how to get them out or some bullshit like that.

Now if you have a good idea what your issue is and what needs to be done to fix it, take the time to carefully vet your chiropractor to make sure they're not going to try some crazy bullshit on you, you very well may be able to get a decent treatment from them. Maybe you'll even be able to save some money going with that.

But for most of us who aren't doctors and so only have kind of vague ideas what exactly the issue is and that the treatments we're doing actually make any sense, and don't necessarily have time to do all of that research and carefully vet that the person treating them isn't secretly a quack, you could just get the same sort of treatments from actually physical therapists, orthopedists, physiatrists, etc. with the added benefit of them actually understanding the issues and how to fix them properly.

Chiropractors are kind of like the rednecks of the medicine world. Some of them know exactly what they're doing with that harbor freight welder, they may not do things by the book but they know for certain what works and what doesn't and more importantly know when something is beyond what them and their buddies can accomplish on a free Saturday with a case of beer and when they need to suck it up and limp their truck to the shop and let a professional deal with it. Others know just enough to be dangerous and while they can get the job done 90% of the time or at least not make things worse, that 10% of the time something is literally going to blow up in someone's face. And still others are just meth heads looking to make a quick buck and it's a miracle they're not behind bars. And when you see them hanging around the local watering hole, it may not be totally clear which is which until it's too late.

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[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 360 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Private health insurance is the biggest fucking scam ever. The private insurance companies benefit by getting the aggregate healthiest population into their plans (working adults). The most likely to be expensive people, i.e. old people (on medicare) or poor people (on medicaid, or not even on an insurance plan) are on government, tax payer insurance plans. There is literally no reason except for corporate profiteering that Medicare should not be expanded to cover all people.

Also all those conversations, especially in the 2020 election period, were totally bullshit. You say something like M4A will cost 44 trillion dollars or whatever, which sounds like an insane amount of money. What is often left out of the discussion is that estimated cost was 1) over 10 years and 2) has to be weighed against the current costs we already pay for insurance. So the deal was very simple: the overall costs would go down because the overall spending would be less, and at the same time millions of people without coverage would be covered, and at the same time you don't have to contemplate stupid bullshit like in network, out of network providers. Or ever again talk to your insurance about why something is or isn't covered. Boils my blood when I think too much about this.

Not even gonna weigh in on things like how medicare can't negotiate prescription drug prices (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/23/us/politics/medicare-drug-price-negotiations-lawsuits.html), or how dental, vision, and hearing are treated separately from general healthcare, or how med school is prohibitively expensive, or how the residents after med school are overworked because the guy who institutionalize that practice was literally a cokehead. Those are all just bonus topics. The point is we are getting fleeced.

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[–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 302 points 1 year ago (13 children)

The stock market and publicly traded companies. The idea that a business that is making consistent profits isn't good unless those profits are increased each quarter is asinine. This system of shortsighted hyper focus on short term quarterly growth for the sake of growth is the cause of so much pain and suffering in the world. Even companies with amazing financials will work to push workers compensation down, cut corners and exploit loopholes to make sure their profits are always growing. Consistent large profits aren't good enough.

[–] AssholeDestroyer@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Instapot. Instapot made too good of a product, most people buy one and its good for years. That's good for consumers but terrible for investors. The company that bought them out and took them public saddled them with a ton of debt from other sectors and now they're bankrupt.

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[–] unscholarly_source@lemmy.ca 175 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (26 children)

My personal top 3:

  • insurance
  • subscriptions
  • Google and similar data hungry companies (while not a financial scam but moreso a privacy scam, companies like Google and Meta profiteering on our personal data without our knowledge or awareness)
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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 172 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Subscriptions.

People pay every month but most don't use the sub to it's full value, and forget how expensive it becomes over the years. And you don't own anything on a subscription, you just borrow it.

Also trial periods that prolong automatically into subscriptions.

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[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 158 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Unpaid overtime.

Framing "fulfilling your contract" as "silent quitting".

In what other context would be "delivering what's in the contract" anything less than satisfactory?

When I buy a litre of milk and the box contains exactly a litre of milk it isn't "silent stealing" either.

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[–] buckykat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 140 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Car based infrastructure

the stock market

capitalism

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 135 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Wedding rings/diamonds in general.

The tradition isn't as old as people think and was literally started by a jewelry company to sell more jewelry. Specifically diamonds, which are not as rare as commonly believed and if not for the false scarcity and misinformation, would be dirt cheap.

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[–] Redfish@lemmy.world 133 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Tipping in restaurants…pay the workers.

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[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 131 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Professors requiring their own, expensive textbook for their course.

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[–] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 126 points 1 year ago (9 children)

First Past the Post voting at elections.

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[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 118 points 1 year ago (16 children)
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[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 114 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Dollar stores. A lot of the time they are profiting by selling you a smaller quantity at a slightly lower price. They target low income communities.

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[–] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 107 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

Car dealerships. They are awful on purpose. In many places car manufacturers are not legally allowed to sell their cars directly to customers, in order to create what is essentially legally mandated car dealerships, which all suck.

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[–] original_ish_name@lemm.ee 105 points 1 year ago (8 children)

The price for glasses. It's like this because of a stupid duopoly

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[–] Peddlephile@lemm.ee 99 points 1 year ago

Private health insurance.

Banks.

[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 97 points 1 year ago (9 children)
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[–] notme@feddit.de 93 points 1 year ago (10 children)
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[–] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml 91 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Real estate agents getting 6% commission from the seller.

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[–] Krulsprietje@lemm.ee 91 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Printer inkt. In our shop people are still buying them for a way to high price…

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[–] clausetrophobic@sh.itjust.works 90 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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[–] Skeith@discuss.online 89 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Homes as wealth-creators.

Americans take it as received wisdom that homes are meant to generate income through higher valuations over time. We just assume home prices go up over time and if it's not actively increasing in value, the home was a failure.

Many other countries don't treat homes this way. They are dwellings, invest what you want to your liking, but it's not a retirement account.

This focus on wealth generation creates lots of perverse incentives, such as exclusionary zoning, building on lots that are overly large, and suburban sprawl. These don't reflect people's actual, desired form of housing but rather maximize wealth for homeowners at the expense of everyone else.

We have a completely warped view of housing that causes us to be preyed upon by real estate agents, landlords, HOAs and the like.

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[–] mats@feddit.de 86 points 1 year ago (45 children)

Windows. You pay ~100€ just to give your personal data to MS and get a bloated OS that will use all of your resources. Even MacOS is a more fair deal than this.

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[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 82 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Capitalism and the 5 day 9 to 5 work week

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[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago (6 children)

British royal family.

Religions that collect money from adherents.

Web 2.0 data harvesting.

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[–] crime@hexbear.net 78 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

Credit scores. It goes up when you have more debt and goes down when you pay your debt off, but it goes down if you ask for a loan and it goes down if you even try to check what it is.

Absolute nonsense.

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[–] Sasuke@hexbear.net 77 points 1 year ago (23 children)
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[–] Swaziboy@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 75 points 1 year ago (11 children)
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[–] bbigras@sh.itjust.works 75 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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[–] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 74 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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[–] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is the third post I’ve seen on Lemmy recently where people seem to overwhelmingly think the word β€œscam” just means β€œsomething I don’t like”. To be a scam, something needs to be dishonest in its representation, usually either by falsifying the true cost to the buyer, or lying about what is being provided in return.

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[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 72 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Commoditized bottled water.

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[–] TARgz@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Your ISP is suddenly asking for more money. What are you gonna do? Disconnect from the internet?

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[–] techtalkf@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Printer Ink and paying companies like Google and Spotify, who still collect your data as a paid customer.

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Capitalism and religion, easily the top two scams.

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[–] original_reader@lemmy.ml 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The way mobile providers charge. The likes of Vodafone, any random Telecom, T-Mobile and so forth. It's a huge scam, bordering theft sometimes. Want samples? Here we go:

"Your credit expires in x days. Better recharge now to not lose it!" (Banks should start doing this /s)

"Your credit has expired. Better give us more money within our generous deadline, or else we are forced to delete your number. We love you."

"Your data has expired. We now charge you a horrendous amount every minute, because we are too greedy to warn you in time. For technical reasons we also cannot stop you from using data after your allowance has been used. Fortunately you still have credit, huh?"

"Your data expires today. We don't insult your intelligence by telling you when. Surely you remember when you bought the package, right? It's not hard to count 24 hours. We also do not send any SMS anymore to save the environment."

"Your data has expired. You need data to buy a new bundle. Our app charges data for our convenience."

"Social media data only works for WhatsApp, but not for Signal. But who uses Signal anyways?"

"Use our customer friendly support chat. Conveniently it uses data. 'Hello, I am your smart bot speaking. How can I help you? I might understand you if you type one of the three questions I have been programmed to answer. Do you want to know more about our products?'"

Edit: added point 2, minor corrections for clarity

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[–] nickiam2@aussie.zone 61 points 1 year ago (7 children)
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[–] Zemvos@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Airlines charging for seat selection. I remember the days when that was just a right you got for "free" by purchasing the ticket 🀷

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[–] DickFuckarelli@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

It's hard to pick just one because, duh, capitalism is inherently a scam.

But if I were to pick just one, it'd have to be the airlines. They're beyond necessary yet every year they pull some insane shit and no one bats an eye. And no matter what they're always crying poor and merging merging merging. Can't you see, they have to - they have no choice.

First the food costs extra. Then the drinks. Then the bags you check in. Then they charge you to sit in the exit aisle because you get an extra 3 inches. They literally say now it's "impossible" to book two tickets seated together unless you pay an extra fee. Impossible, you say? How the fuck were you able to do it for so long up until 2022???

[–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] Colorcodedresistor@lemm.ee 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

competition. You like Brand A? and dislike Brand B? both are owned by C

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