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I just re-watched TNG "In Theory" (S04E25) and Data says that the door to his quarters is set to only allow humanoids to enter or leave when Geordie finds Spot in the hall.

Whilst I get that it would be dangerous for Spot to wander the ship freely I think it's kind of mean to keep him locked in a small room like that forever. There doesn't seem to be any cat toys in the room but maybe the computer is capable of some sort of environmental enrichment we can't immediately see.

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[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 82 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Do you have a cat? There would be several episodes about Spot breaking various ship systems and causing cat-astrophes

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 40 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Your summary feels like an episode of Lower Decks demanding to be written!

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago
[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Damage on a Federation space ship would create a hefty ...

cat-astro-fee

[–] And009@reddthat.com 7 points 4 months ago

I want cat-as-trophy

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

seems like data would just pin a communicator to his collar and beam him back if he got the urge to go walkabout.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Comm badge chirp

"Mowwww, Mowwww, mrrrowwww."

"Excuse me, I have an urgent matter to attend to."

[–] Aggravationstation 3 points 4 months ago

I do and yea, he would have caused complete havoc on board the Enterprise.

[–] weariedfae@lemmy.world 69 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Not really. His quarters seem spacious enough and as long as he has plenty of engagement - which we can assume he did because of his study of having a pet, indoor cats are perfectly happy lazy balls of frustrating love.

I mean, there are trucker cats who are happy.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Plus, cats are nocturnal and are most active at night. Data does not always sleep, so on nights where he’s not on the bridge, he could be spending quality time with Spot.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cats are actually crepuscular, meaning they're most active at dawn and dusk, but they can be trained to keep to a mostly human sleep schedule (by which I mean sleeping 8 of their 15 daily hours at the same time you do).

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Not to mention the fact that Data is literally incapable of getting bored.

[–] Aggravationstation 4 points 4 months ago
[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I get the impression TNG quarters are about the size of a studio apartment, which isn't amazing for cats, but it can work if you keep them entertained.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah, lots of things are perfectly happy if they never get to expand their horizons.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have an introvert cat that would think I was torturing her if I were to make her leave her little spaces.

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

My cat was the opposite. He longed for adventure! Excitement! The great outdoors.

I'd take him on walks on a little cat harness. He was perfectly happy to roam. I think we got 4 blocks away one time before I finally had to say "Look, cat, it's getting late. Time to go home again."

He was a very good cat.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

It seems like the upper staff on the ship get quarters that are roughly the size of a 1 or 2 bedroom apartment. Not great, but not worse than what lots of people do IRL.

Plus maybe he sometimes takes spot to a cargohold for more active play. There would be plenty of space, lots of height, etc. And that's all before even considering the holodeck.

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So you have never lived in an apartment and had a cat?

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[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, Picard's lionfish in that tiny-ass globe:

~blub~

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Apparently, his name is Livingston.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Yes, but the doctorate is honorary.

[–] milkisklim@lemm.ee 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I always imagined that there was an unseen conduit for the lionfish to go hang out in the Cetacean ops ecosystem.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure Data had Spot out at one point and they spent six hours climbing through Jeffrey's Tubes to find him.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

Jeffrey must have been sore afterward!

[–] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you think that no one living in an apartment should own a cat?

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[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Now I'm wondering if Data ever brought Spot to the Holodeck. "Computer, run program Spot #7" (looks like a farm setting with space-squirrels and such)

[–] Aggravationstation 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Space squirrels that Spot can murder.

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[–] Toes@ani.social 17 points 4 months ago

To be fair, you can't treat Spot like an outdoor cat on a space ship. Unlike kids there's no one assigned to Spot to keep track of them in an emergency.

And before you say well Data is responsible for that, keep in mind data will pretty always have his attention monopolized by an emergency on this ship. So the best thing for Spot is to be in a known location.

[–] punkwalrus@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Wait, didn't spot become pregnant with an unknown other ship cat? This would imply at least some kind of free roaming.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Spot

In 2370, Spot became pregnant by one of the twelve male cats aboard the Enterprise-D at that time. Data paid attention to her health, including bringing her to sickbay for a check-up just before giving birth. (TNG: "Genesis")

I checked a transcript, and saw this line between him an Barclay, implying not only that Spot "escaped," but that there are other cats also loose:

BARCLAY: I'm curious, sir. Who's the father?

DATA: I am not certain. Spot has escaped from my quarters on several occasions and there are twelve male felines on board. I intend to run a full DNA analysis on the kittens once they [he is interrupted by Picard on speaker]

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

gonna find the father and get child support kibble lol

[–] Aggravationstation 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Huh. I always thought Spot was male. Probably because I've always had male cats myself.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I used to have an orange female cat...

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 6 points 4 months ago

I have one sitting on me rn. They're uncommon, but exist

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you kidding? Spot got out whenever she damn well felt like it. There's no way that Data didn't figure out how to keep the cat from unlocking the door; I'm pretty sure that spot came and went whenever she felt like it. Especially when you remember that all of the toughest guys on the ship were terrified of that cat lol

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 13 points 4 months ago

In the episode where Spot gives birth, it is clear Spot gets out.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 9 points 4 months ago

I feel like TNG missed a trick by not have a Feline Ops department.

"Ensign Spot, what is your report on the feline habitability of Eridani 3?"

"Meh."

[–] HelluvaKick@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

They used to be allowed to run through the decks but then they started peeing in the Jeffrey's tubes and engineers couldn't work with the smell.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

Animals, not kids or personnel, should have the primary use of holodecks, if not just their own to live in.

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