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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 73 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wait, was Cruelty Squad made by BMF?

[–] aaro@hexbear.net 73 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 60 points 4 months ago

Real people: hey how are you

[–] spacecadet@hexbear.net 42 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Noone yet in this thread addressing how "gooner" relates to any of this lol, or is it just being used as ornamental punctuation to end a series of somewhat related nouns

[–] HumongousChungus@hexbear.net 47 points 4 months ago

it's emotional and social gooning, an anti-agitprop that instead of edging you toward revolution, functions as an outlet and masturbatory hope. the emotional equivalent of reaching right for the prostate stimulator. idk maybe

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

rubbing yrself raw to the prospect of a rooftop garden

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago

yall lack a sense of political poetics

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago

Don’t touch the grass that way.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

Yeah I was VERY confused why "gooner" is there I swear to god its just the ultimate buzzword right now.

[–] flan@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago

either solarpunk came from something awful or thr word is “nostalgia gooner” and means someone who jerks off over nostalgia?

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[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 34 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Now im not a solarpunk fan myself but I have seen many leftwing/leftish people seen positive on it. Is it good / bad ? I havent really looked into it beyond surface level.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 73 points 4 months ago (3 children)

IMO it's good at its roots but can be easily coopted, it's like cottagecore in that sense.

[–] Boise_Idaho@hexbear.net 48 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Twitter solarpunk is cooked because they all use screenshots from the same yogurt ad with lines like "a business is only as good as its people" lmao

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 43 points 4 months ago

Exactly, it's basically been reduced down to just the aesthetics which can be readily repackaged and recuperated. It's a floating signifier, waiting for a brand to attach to and be capitalized on. But since there's something fundamentally good at its core, I still see value in it.

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 38 points 4 months ago

Goblincore stay winning- the nouveau art nouveau

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 36 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Sorry for being a boomer mom-type character archetype. Could you explain how solarpunk and cottagecore connect and why they are good but can be coopted? I honestly need to google cottagecore again; I remember hearing the word, but I'm not that online yet, I guess.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 89 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Cottagecore was a lesbian aesthetic about escaping heteronormative society and going off grid. It got turned into a tradwife aesthetic about neo lebensraum. Solarpunk is similar, but the way it gets coopted is via green capitalism washing away the revolutionary parts of solarpunk and replacing them with consumerism of the eco friendly variety.

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Thank you, that makes sense. It's nice to see young people respect their elders :^)

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 31 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I think if I just continue cooking my mind with enough Brace rants I'll eventually become a good version of BMF

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[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago

It's alright, auntie, lol.

For cottagecore - I think it's the fascist idealization of a past that never really existed. I've never really thought about the connection between cottagecore and solar punk, but I could see both having a twee idealized rural life aesthetic (with solar punk adding a dash of sci-fi)

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

I wouldn't say it's hitlerite adjacent, but it's full idealism - impossible under capitalism and unnecessary under socialism. Also most of solarpunk art is really bad if you look at it second time - shitty infrastructure, rotting plant matter everywhere, erosion of cityspaces, insane amounts of labour to maintain it, disconnected primitivism, strong postapo ruin vibes, and this is even before we talk about AI artefacts in said pics.

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

insane amounts of labour to maintain it

Labour has never been the problem. It’s whether those maintaining it socially reproduce capitalism, or socialism/communism/anarchy.

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago

I feel like even if we had communism tomorrow we’d still have discussions on if X thing is worth doing labor wise or if that labor could be used more effectively doing something else. It’s not like having a bunch of vining plants on every building is inherently a good thing. Those plants are going to want water from somewhere and they’ll probably get it from the sewer system or something which means clogged drains everywhere.

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[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 33 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It's an aesthetic. And yes aesthetics are political, but I think this is one of those ones that can go either way, in fact I feel that way about most "Punk" genres. There's been progressive and reactionary cyberpunk, steampunk, whatever.

Some of solar punk seems to be "hey what if we did Soviet brutalist commie blocks but with more greenery", so a more naturalistic and whimsical version of dense, organized, urban-proletariat society, which I think is kinda cool. Other times it looks more like an idealized version of what "techno-feudalism" would look like, a quaint, pastoral, sustainable version of being petite-bourgeois.

[–] a_little_red_rat@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago

It's also telling that one of the major artworks used to "promote" the aesthetic is literally a yoghurt commercial, but since it's a cute animation, it gets a pass.

[–] rwhitisissle@lemy.lol 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

a quaint, pastoral, sustainable version of being petite-bourgeois.

Or as I like to call it, "Hobbitcore."

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[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 25 points 4 months ago

I think it's fine. The societal changes necessary to address climate change are so wild that people literally lack capacity to imagine them. Solarpunk is an art genre to fill in that space.

[–] regul@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago

Solarpunk is good this is internet poisoning.

[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

profoundly deranged tweet, and yet, true in every word

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[–] Gamer_time@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

Ville is so freakin' sazed... :cruelty-handler:

[–] juliebean@lemm.ee 20 points 4 months ago

no idea who this villecallio fellow is, but that's a really 3 bells alarm chili the morning after burning your asshole spicy take

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