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[–] Crunchypotat77@lemm.ee 181 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (24 children)

That whole video, and the follow-up, were incredible. I used to trust LTT quite a bit, but after the video, I've just chunks of respect for LTT. Dunno if i can ever trust them.

Edit:

I work in the tech industry. I work for an A tier company that makes servers, storage and more. I cannot imagine fucking up a benchmark/performance characterisation chart THIS badly even for an internal presentation.

I have spent hours double checking and re-running tests to ensure I'm getting the right numbers.

And to see a channel as big as LTT goofing up numbers so badly, which have the potential to affect thousands of purchasing decisions, i can't even.

We also work with vendors, who sometimes send hardware prototypes. And we can never be THIS unprofessional to them.

[–] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 127 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I will say this, and some may consider this my hot take; I feel like Linus needs to step back from responding to community feedback as well. I get that it's his company and he probably feels responsibility to respond, but he does not respond well to criticism. The biggest tell on how his employees feel was Luke's face during the video. It was obvious even without him saying anything that he knew the hot take response was not going to turn out well. These situations are part of being a CEO not an owner and Linus needs to show that he trusts the new CEO enough to respond accordingly. Linus continues to handle this problem in the exact wrong manner when he shouldn't be handling it at all m

[–] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 58 points 1 year ago

Luke's face during the video.

Man I felt so bad for him. I think he should've spoken up and called Linus out.

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[–] franklin@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

I'm somewhat conflicted on the entire matter. I felt like their quality was slipping for some time and it's been difficult to watch them.

Linus has handled almost every community crisis extremely poorly because when under pressure he gets defensive and speaks without thinking often pouring gasoline on the fire.

At the same time I can understand his motivations as the livelihoods of his now very large number of employees depends on it.

I think if LTT had responded officially and earnestly to the criticism addressing and laying out of roadmap for remediation it would have bought a lot of goodwill. I think Linux needs to be removed from LTT public relations but I don't think that will ever happen.

Truly a sad day, glad we have GN

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[–] jeebus@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems Linus is in love with money now.

[–] vind@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 146 points 1 year ago
[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 110 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Is Gamers Nexus finally getting the respect they deserve?

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[–] gdelopata@lemmy.ml 102 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Too large, corporate burdens. Ltt needs to slow down. Quantity over quality not cool.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago

"We may be pumping out trash, but at least the trash pumps are running strong with huge throughput. We're ℙℝ𝕆𝔻𝕌ℂ𝕋𝕀𝕍𝔼!

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Yes I think this was the main point that Steve kept coming back too. Moving too fast. And not focusing on accuracy and quality. LTT realistically has always been much more about entertainment. And I still watch them for that. Gamers Nexus Etc has always been where you go if you want the straight dry news and facts with as little opinion thrown in as possible.

Linus has a vision of what he wants to become. And I am there for it. There's undeniable possibility and niche for what they want to do. But it relies on being methodical, accurate, and focused. Several things they've been owning themselves on for a while. It can be fixed. But I think George Harrison put it best.

It's gonna take patience and time, mmm To do it, to do it, to do it, to do it, to do it To do it right

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 89 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I honestly never got his channel. Does Linus actually have a tech/engineering background which makes him an authority on this stuff? Watching his videos leads me to believe that he doesn't. He gets basic shit wrong way too often.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 112 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Linus is both knowledgable and a good entertainer. The problem is he's grown from a casual reviewer to running a 100+ employee business, pumping out multiple videos a week with his face on it - He simply cannot possibly know anything about the product besides what's on the script.

When he is interested in something, it really shows. The way he talks about the LTT Screwdriver or the Framework laptop for example almost never even has a correction, let alone errors. Linus just has no ability to upscale that quality.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

I think it's even more what GN has highlighted: They try to go from entertainment first to hard facts and data. It's very clear that they have not thought this through completely.

Yes, some of their testing solutions are very sophisticated, but there are definitely problems on the management side of things. This seems very much like a structural problem. Communications goes horribly wrong in multiple ways, including errors not being corrected properly. Errors appear very frequently and the employees themselves question the quality of their videos.

Linus himself claimed that he had to improvise a workshop with employees, because they lacked training for what they were supposed to do. Furthermore that he substantially changed things on the fly, because they were garbage from his POV. All of this indicates bad management, but not learning from mistakes and making the exact same ones again proves it.

[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

This is horseshit, no offense; Linus straight up says he's not interested in doing it right as it's cost $1-500... Which is nothing to them.

He's a sales sleeze semi-technical media nerd that is at best a good entertainer.

He chooses not to enforce quality.

LTT is entertainment. Not news or credibly fact based.

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[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He's does not have a technical background and he's said as much, gaming and computers are just a passion for him.

He's an entertainer, not an authority. But he speaks so passionately it's easy for a non-technical person to believe he's an authority.

[–] Ryumast3r@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

He's honestly just jayz2cents with better marketing.

Except Jay is usually pretty honest and upfront about how little he knows, which now makes him miles better than Linus "I definitely benchmark better than tech jesus" sebastian.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jays2cents is literally the car modder of tech channels. "Here's how you install a 5.1 sound system into your waterblock". And I mean that in a loving way.

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[–] C3D@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Linus himself has no engineering background, but his team has many engineers. They do not make mistakes for lack of knowledge. What they need is more quality control over their videos

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[–] rab@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LTT is just an infomercial

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[–] Crunchypotat77@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago

He doesn't. He's just being a computer technician for as long as he has worked.

[–] s_s@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It used to be an unboxing channel.

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[–] GenBlob@lemm.ee 84 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed are the only channels I would watch for new PC part reviews. They don't hide or glance over any details for the sake of entertainment and your attention. If I'm spending $700+ on a product I want to know exactly what I'm getting, Not a quick rundown that skips over details that could be potential deal breakers. Glad to see them get the attention they deserve after all this controversy.

[–] onparole@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just like you said. I only watch gn before purchases. They're so damn dry and boring I just skip it wholly and fully otherwise.

[–] GenBlob@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

That's understandable. I find them genuinely entertaining, Especially their presentation coverage videos but their long-winded style isn't for everyone. I just prefer in-depth content.

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[–] RobMyBot@lemmy.ml 79 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I couldn't believe the story about the water block.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"we did what we did because no matter what the temps are, we thought it was so expensive that none of our viewers should come away from this video wanting to buy it"

[–] Anonymousllama@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Sounds like if they had no good faith intention of even testing the water block they should have done the morally correct thing and told billet they're not going to review it. But doing that when they've already looked at it would be a waste of content yeah and they want a return on every dollar and second spent.

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[–] Damionsipher@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

He's built a $100,000 gaming desk in the past year, as if he couldn't see a market for an expensive cooler block.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 54 points 1 year ago (14 children)

For reviews sure, for entertainment? Sets me to sleep tbh

[–] colourlesspony@pawb.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me ltt is entertainment. I personally think they should pivot away from hardware reviews and do just do crazy projects, show cases of really ground breaking tech, and engineering type stuff like they have been. Hardware reviews kind of boring not the reason I watch ltt. It's really is like the topgrear of pc hardware imo.

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[–] ruk_n_rul@monyet.cc 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

After the sewer explosion at LMG today I truly felt Gamer Jesus is really coming forth as a messiah.

[–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago

Tech Jesus for data. LTT for infotainment.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago

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[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] natlovesmariahcarey@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

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[–] ManuLeMaboul@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Tech nerd Jesus has arrived.

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