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Seems pretty dumb in our biological design to not be able to regenerate such a functional (and also easily breakable) part of our body.

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[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 115 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Your baby teeth and adult teeth all began developing before you were even born. Our DNA still contains all the genes that sharks use to grow their endless conveyor belt of replacement teeth, but in humans these genes are deactivated by the 20th week of foetal development.

The advantages of keeping the same teeth through adulthood is that they can be securely anchored in the jawbone, which allows us to chew tough plants and grains.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/why-cant-we-regrow-teeth

though a drug is being developed that could allow us to regenerate teeth

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 36 points 5 months ago (10 children)

You’re saying we could reactivate the gene and get infinite teeth?? 🫨

[–] bluGill@kbin.run 47 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Possible, but it may come with downsides you don't like.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Let me guess, the downside is infinite teeth.

[–] bluGill@kbin.run 8 points 5 months ago

The downside could be something that nobody has imagined yet. That is the problem with change. I'm not against this, but I demand reasonable study. (but not unreasonable levels - vaccines and GMO have been studied enough to conclude they are generally safe despite people yelling more study needed)

[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

Teething 3.0.

[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Imagine teeth grew like our nails and had to be clipped regularly

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 15 points 5 months ago
[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

I hate that, please stop

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[–] Tanoh@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 months ago

worse, you have to pay to stop them from growing

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Side effects may include dry mouth, diarrhea, attacking swimmers at the beach. Do not take Teethenall if you are allergic to shellfish.

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[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Isn’t this the Street Sharks origin story?

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

Vagina teeth? That's my fetish.

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 55 points 5 months ago (3 children)

You said exactly why in your post: "...our biological design..."

There's no such thing. We evolved. That means we're a mix of traits passed along over time by individuals that managed to live long enough to breed.

That's it. That's the whole explanation for any question about "why don't humans do x thing as part of our biology?"

Any given trait is all about lasting long enough to make babies. Once that occurs, all that's left is a general proclivity to ensuring the babies survive long enough to do the same. Regrowing teeth isn't part of that. It's a niche trait that isn't as useful as you'd think for humans. We don't need to gnaw at things, we don't need to crack bones with our mouths, nothing that would make a third set of teeth an advantage, or different teeth an advantage.

Teeth are not easily breakable. We actually can crack bone with our jaws and the teeth will usually survive if the bone isn't too thick; we just have better tools for that because way back when, the proto-humans that used tools had more babies that survived to make more babies. You have to abuse and/or neglect your teeth to break them for the vast majority. There are congenital issues where that isn't the case, but we've also bred ourselves into a social species that takes care of each other, so we aren't limited to a harsh, primitive survival level of things.

I really don't get why people think of teeth as fragile. They're incredibly durable for what we need them for, and require only minimal care to last well beyond breeding age. Even if you factor in modern diets being bad for teeth, regular care for them (brushing and flossing) can stave off those effects for decades. Go search up some of the dental research on old human bodies from archaeological sites. People survived very well with just one set of adult teeth.

And, some humans do have extras that can come in later in life, though it's very rare and comes with drawbacks (according to the last lady I dated that was an anthropologist anyway). Supposedly, having the extras actually weakens the regular adult teeth and makes them more prone to damage. There's always a tradeoff in things like this.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 49 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Just a note, biology doesn't have a design. If you're looking for some kind of logic or plan, you'll be disappointed.

Things are the way they are because a long time ago, it helped something survive and procreate. That's it, survive and procreate. Every other consideration is secondary.

We can theorize about why two sets of teeth were advantageous at some point, but that doesn't provide an answer to "why?"

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[–] Michal@programming.dev 43 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Because they last long enough to reproduce. After that, evolution doesn't care.

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[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago

The diet that we evolved to consume (fruits, lean meats and fibrous plants) was much less damaging to our teeth than the current high-sugar, high-fat, highly processed foods. And human lifespans was shorter, so less time for teeth to damage. So there wasn’t a strong evolutionary need to regenerate them (unlike an animal like sharks)

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 36 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There are no stupid questions. But there are grammatically flawed questions.

[–] ShadowCatEXE@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I tried to rephrase his question in my head, and I ended up with “Why do not teeth degenerate.”

I need sleep.

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[–] bilb@lem.monster 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No selection pressure after the age at which our adult teeth fail

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (7 children)

This concept can be scaled up to a lot of things, like why most of our systems break down. Nature only maintains what is needed to continue the species, everything that happens to you afterwards, with the exception of child-rearing, will be abandoned by nature unless someone gains some trait from living longer that helps the species propagate.

But nature is kind of silly, it doesn't make "choices" so some of the adaptations can be weird. Like how our retina's blood supply formed on the front of the retina so your brain has to always edit out your blood vessels from your vision and you can only see it using special tricks of light and then BAM all the spaghetti appears that's been there all along.

Imagine what else our brain tells us and shows or doesn't show us to make sense of what evolution has turned us into.

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[–] AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago

Because when it comes to survival until procreation, you don't need more than two sets.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, if evolution is so great, how come we can't fly??

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Philosophical take.

We can. We figured out how. Thousands of humans fly every day across the planet faster than any bird. We can also live in environments we were definitely not designed to whether it’s with clothing, fire, or advanced HVAC systems. And we’ve pushed that further with our own little atmospheres under the sea or in space.

Evolution didn’t stop with us. It is us. Evolution, in trying every possible permutation landed on an organism that adapts the world around it, rather than waiting generations to adapt to the world around it.

Now it’s a matter of if our social and societal evolution will see us succeed or end in failure. If we don’t solve the climate crises we created, if we end up murdering each other, if we get smacked by an unforeseen object from space, potentially built by even more advanced evolution, we lost, and evolution will continue. Evolution is us, but far too often we’re too blind to see that gift, and advance responsibly

[–] NemoWuMing@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And how come we need to sleep?

And eat food?

And why not have wheels for feet?

And what would a chair look like if our knees bent the other way?

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I know the point of your answer was not to dwell on these things, but:

And what would a chair look like if our knees bent the other way?

Is actually very interesting, would've we designed it as a normal chair but we would rest our chests instead of backs? Or would they have a place to rest the legs instead of on the floor?

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[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You should call customer service and complain

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I've been on hold for decades.

[–] fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

Did you ask to speak to the manager? That usually works.

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[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're right, this design isn't intelligent at all!

[–] northendtrooper@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 months ago

Wait until y'all learn about the birth canal and our skulls that fold.

[–] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Because our design is not particularly intelligent ...

Edit: Scientific proof of my thesis:

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[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Almost like there isn't a God and we weren't designed hey?

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sharks laughin' at us talkin' apes.

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are VERY few circumstances in nature where someone in nature who gets all their teeth knocked out is gonna survive long enough to reproduce

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[–] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I mean.. we grow teeth a total of 3 times. The first for our baby teeth, the second time for our 'mature' teeth, and the make up 'wisdom' teeth to fill any that might've fallen out at that point. I'm guessing those three growths were the most needed for humans early survival before we got all fancy with farming and hygiene. At which point we kind of broke survival of the fittest and things just kind of happen now.

Kind of like how humans are one of a handful of mammals that didn't evolve out of menstruation.

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[–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 5 months ago

I think they are intended to, and they actually do... once (child teeth). Probably just broken due to genetic decay or environment (e.g. if humans are no longer fully maturing and what we call adult teeth are actually "intermediate" teeth). I suspect a deeper understanding of the recent tooth-regrowth drug(s) may provide a clue as to why it is currently broken.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Muscar@discuss.online 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

When does toth not degenerate?

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 6 points 5 months ago

My personal theory is that this mutation among humans would lead to older members of the tribe living longer and being more of a burden on the younger members.

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