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we are so, so, so fucked

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[–] ihaveibs@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unsurprisingly, r/Argentina is celebrating

[–] Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Visiting Reddit

Why would you do this

[–] ihaveibs@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago
[–] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wouldn't surprise me if there's American interference in here somehow

[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this their counter to dedollerization? Can't trade in your own currency if you don't have your own currency taps forehead.

[–] Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A lot of Latin Americans that I've met, from Argentina, Peru or Venezuela have happened to be hardcore libertarians. I have come to guess that they do so because they have seen that it works for the Global North, which is considerably wealthier than their countries are, and as such the logical conclusion is to just follow the same politics they do. What they don't understand is that the Global North will never treat them like an equal. They will never see them as anything other than as an asset to exploit, just like it happened with Russia and Yeltsin.

Best wishes and good luck to Argentina.

[–] RedSquid@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except that it doesn't work in the global north and never has. Hell, it has never even been implemented in the way these psychos want, cause even the worst neoliberal inhuman trash understand that these libertarians are deranged idiots.

[–] Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I say "work" I mean in regards of accumulating wealth. These people I am talking about that I meant were usually EU supporters and admirers of countries like Germany and others, not understanding that capitalism in the Global North works through the plunder of the South. Sure, this libertarianism will go nowhere, but if they embrace it it is by taking northern countries and philosophy as the point of reference.

[–] RedSquid@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

ok, but those European countries have never been libertarian, neoliberal in recent years sure, but that's been the point where things went to shit. If they wanted to copy our 'success', they should look at our social-democratic period where the bourgeoisie were willing to pay off the workers (with the scraps of neo-imperialism which obviously is not available to Argentina).

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

If they think their conditions are bad, oh boy they better buckle up if this dumbass wins.

[–] Typko@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago

they are gonna end up becoming slave of international corps or bears will attack them. if they ruin the country, which i believe they will, it will be a example for others.

How it feels as an uninformed and naive westerner trying to read abt and understand Argentinian politics

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Solidarity comrade! I hope there's some measure of restraint. What do you think this means for joining BRICS?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

BUT LIBERTARIANS ARENT RIGHT WING THEY JUST WANT MORE FREEDOM

-actual fucking take I hear sometimes from people with a straight face

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Javier Milei, who wants to abolish the central bank and adopt the U.S. dollar as Argentina’s currency, is now the front-runner in the fall general election.

This cryptofascist is going to peddle some kind of cryptocurrency and push it on Argentina's citizenry, isn't he? cryptocurrency dumpster-fire scared-fash

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly thought the rapid rise of the far right was only really happening in Europe and North America, how naive I was.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Did you think the lasting echos of regimes like Pinochet Chile and Argentina’s Junta (to name a few), would have no effect on the modern political landscape?

I wish 😔

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly I thought the rise in left wing governments would’ve been the start of a trend in South America.

[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a mixed bag. Since the 90s there have been many relatively successful leftist-ish movements (MAS, PSUV, and to a lesser extent PT and PJ) through elections, but any of their victories is almost inevitably met with extreme reactions from bourgies, which shock the economy, but the news corporations owned by those same bourgies then peddle that the issue is some nebulous "corruption problem."

On the other hand it's really hard to build revolutionary movements because we have had severe counter-revolutionary dictatorships in our countries being propped up within living memory, on the mere suspicion of revolution. It's an ebb and flow, but those right wingers usually have USA backing and are not purely internal or homogenous developments.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True, but the media everyone consumes tells people that that’s bad, plus true leftist movements get instantly fucked over on the international stage.

Plus leftism is still wildly unpopular in Latin America, despite a few major successes.

[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

and his five Mastiff dogs, each named after a conservative economist.

Ironically based. Dogs aren't known for their intellect, but rather their loyalty to their owners.

How are the other candidates doing? As usual with the NYT, they only report on the fascists on Southern elections. Odd isn't it? Expect every foreign/foreign-backed media conglomerate to peddle that "he's not actually that bad" until November, then pretend they never backed him if he gets elected.

“The Argentine people have finally woken up,” said Rebeca Di Iorio

Oh hey, that's copyright infringement on our fascists!

[–] juchenecromancer@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Didnt he legalize the slae of organs lol

[–] big_spoon@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

milei will gonna be so surprised that he can't realize his dreams of being bukekle and adopt bitcoins as currency, and noticing that; as a rightoid he will have to submit his will to the ruling class and "statists"

[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Oh, this is bad

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