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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 66 points 5 months ago (3 children)

How can you say someone is a first time offender when they have 34 counts. If I rob 34 houses before I get caught am I still a first time offender?

[–] homura1650@lemm.ee 44 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It is 34 counts, but still only a single crime. It is more analgous to robbing a single house once, but taking 34 items. Given how the bussiness records law are written, each false record is a seperate crime, but they were all done as part of the same scheme.

This is pretty common in criminal law. It is suprisingly difficult to commit only 1 crime.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, that does actually make sense.

Will be very interesting to see what the sentencing end up being, Trump really doesn't seem to have done himself any favours there by constantly attacking the judge, jury and judges family.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It won't matter. Maga fascist chuds will start the threats and everyone will back down

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The same was said about him being convicted or not, and we haven't seen the threats materialize since the verdict was announced.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are you serious? There have been threats against judges.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

There were threats that a conviction would lead to violent retaliation, but to my knowledge none of those threats have been carried out. So why let new threats about his potential sentence influence that?

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What if you've already been found guilty of rape?

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And running a fraudulent university.

[–] BajaTacos@lemm.ee 29 points 5 months ago

And stealing funds from charities which resulted in shutting down your eponymous foundation.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

And running a fraudulent charity.

[–] BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would guess the logic behind going harder on repeat offenders is that they've already been punished once and didn't stop breaking the law, so we should punish them harder this time. Not sure that's super effective reasoning, but w/e.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Despite common opinion, courts consider prison “rehabilitative incarceration.”

[–] ignirtoq@fedia.io 38 points 5 months ago (2 children)

and whether you like it or appreciate it or not, he's got a history of public service

Would that be the charity that's a front for embezzling charitable donations, or the presidency that he used to enrich himself by vacationing in his own properties, requiring the federal government to pay exorbitant, arguable falsely inflated, prices with taxpayer money for housing the Secret Service in Trump properties and selling national secrets to hostile governments?

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Yeah, this smells of "He saves, but he rapes. But he saves more than he rapes!"

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

You spent a lot of time and effort dancing around the fact that he is a traitor.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Oh, here comes the worming towards affluenza.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

I know a first time offender who got 26 when their codefendents got 2 because they were the only one who insisted they hadn't done anything wrong. Everyone else was recognizant of their guilt at the end of the trial. This is not unique and Merchan should be aware.