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Newsmax host Carl Higbie went on a tirade on Friday after former President Donald Trump was convicted by a Manhattan jury the day before.

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee was found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records to conceal hush money payments to cover up extramarital affairs. Trump was concerned the affairs would come to light and harm his presidential aspirations. The Republican freakout has been swift if not predictable. Despite their outrage and indignation, some conservatives insist that being a convicted felon will help Trump’s chances of returning to the White House in November’s election.

During Friday’s edition of Frontline on Newsmax, Higbie demanded congressional Republicans drop everything and go after those involved in Trump’s prosecution.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 159 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’d like to remind that News Max host that the city that convicted Donald Trump murders 400 people each year with guns.

Blue cities ain’t trying to pass gun regulations because they’re afraid of the idea of guns. They’re trying to pass gun laws because they have a fuck ton of guns.

Those aren’t fireworks we hear every night.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 50 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Conservatives underestimate how much firepower the left has - they just don’t advertise it like it’s their personality. Even strongholds like Texas actually have less guns per household than the national average.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There is a difference between owning guns and being an ammosexual. Let them continue not understanding that. Fine by me.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

being an ammosexual.

Putting bullets in your butt does not make you a gun.

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[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 97 points 3 months ago (7 children)

That 90% number is wishful thinking at best.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 110 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And so what if Cletus has a hundred guns. He's only got 2 hands and early onset diabetes. I like my chances.

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 52 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Good point, I could easily out maneuver a mobility scooter.

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Better watch out now, Rascal makes a turbo model that'll get up into the high teens. Strap a couple AK's to one of those and you have the next Tarantino movie.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

That's a hilarious visual. A mounted gun where the basket should be

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[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 months ago

I mean they may own five hundred guns each but i feel like only the first couple of them actually matter. The rest are just for masturbation purposes.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 81 points 3 months ago

Get in there and subpoena everyone. This judge, his daughter, everyone affiliated with anything ever, ever! I don’t care if we stop building bridges and highways and stop funding our government. You fight fire with fire. Otherwise, these Marxists are going to keep doing this.

You're advocating against the rule of law and making threatening remarks towards millions of Americans. Like a terrorist. That's what a terrorist does. Promote violence without technically saying you promote violence why don't you.

You have never met America.

Have you? You wish harm on your country and her people. For god sakes your lord and savior man didn't even win the popular vote when he was actually elected. What the hell are you smoking?

“And when he does, I’m gonna sit back, I’m gonna drink a beer, I’m gonna smoke a cigar the size of Cuba and laugh because they earned this one,” he stated.

Check where you're buying your cigs mate.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 60 points 3 months ago

That’s cute. I know lots of democrats who love their guns just as much. The difference is we know when to use them and how to properly store them so our kids don’t get mad at their classmates and you know, make mistakes that cost themselves and their classmates the rest of their lives

🤷🏻‍♂️

Stay mad and ignorant tho. It’s easier on the rest of us to deal with you when you’re blinded by rage and have had the only solid footing you have on this world knocked out beneath you.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 59 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Even if they do have 90% of the guns, they still only own about 30% of the trigger fingers. A guy with a garage full of guns can only shoot one at a time.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

I was gonna say 2 guns, but how would they hold their beer?

Do the have a designated anti gun person to hold the beers?

Then who will they shoot at? Can't waste the beer by shooting the beer holder!

[–] Souroak@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 3 months ago

Don't forget they have to decide whether they hate Bud, Miller, or Coors Light this week.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was gonna say 2 guns, but how would they hold their beer?

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[–] PPQ@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Newsmax: Don't go into the cities! They're warzones and you'll get shot...

Also Newsmax: We have all the guns too!

These people are so detached from reality.

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[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 50 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

We have all the guns! We're on the edge!

Liberals are trying to bait us into violence.

Wat?

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[–] neo@lemy.lol 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let's take a step back from that provocation and look at the bigger picture.

  • This is intended to create division and make money (like Frank Reynolds would).
  • Neighbours shooting neighbours or rural folks shooting city people (or the other way around), that won't lead to any takeover or to any surrendering of power on a larger scale.
  • That's just terrorism and could (at most) cause chaos and terror.
  • If there actually was domestic violence on a larger scale, it would come down to: who controls the military or which part of the military is on which side.
  • I would avoid meaningless skirmishes e.g. in a suburb of Seattle.

I'm not saying succumb to bullies, but whatever you do, be smart about it.

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[–] Marighost@lemm.ee 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they don't like it, they can just leave. That's what they've been saying for decades, right?

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[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Does he even know who the hell we are? I'm a new Yorker and I've seen through Trump's facade for decades. Why are people so devoted to this conman?

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[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 33 points 3 months ago (5 children)

OOOHHH NOOO~! The man with 8 Rifles is after me when I only own 1 Rifle! /s

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I hate that idiotic narrative they keep pushing.

You've got 90% of the guns? Correction..you have 90% of the civilian guns. The military, who work for the legal government have far more than you do, as well as drones, bombs and tanks. So fuck off with your "We have 90% of the guns" bullshit.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

Never underestimate a military's capacity to support fascism.

Signed, the entirely of Latin America, whose military dictatorships the US funded.

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[–] twig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Minority groups are among the fastest growing groups of overall gun owners, for reasons outlined here.

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Is this stochastic terrorism?

Edit: Christopher Ruddy is a POS.

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[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Some of these dudes have never been to Chicago and it shows

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's funny because they're all scared to go to cities because of the crime stories they see on winger media like newsmax, but then they also turn around and say things like this.

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[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 27 points 3 months ago

Sup, dork - liberal with a bunch of guns here. I’ve been training since Duck Hunt and can shoot the cap off a trans label Budweiser from 100 yards with a .22.

Don’t make the mistake of thinking Trumpers have a monopoly on gun powder.

✌️

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Gun ownership by party:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/249775/percentage-of-population-in-the-us-owning-a-gun-by-party-affiliation/

48% of Republicans personally own a gun.
66% of Republicans live in a gun owning household.

20% and 31% on the Democratic side.

32% and 42% for Independents.

https://ballotpedia.org/Partisan_affiliations_of_registered_voters

"number of registered voters by partisan affiliations in states that allow voters to register by party and report those totals publicly"

So only about 30 states + the US Virgin Islands, so these numbers will be low.

"45 million registered voters in these areas identified themselves as Democrats."

45 * .2 = 9,000,000 Democratic gun owners, and 13,950,000 Democrats living in gun owning households.

"35.7 million registered voters identified themselves as Republicans"

35.7 * .48 = 17,136,000 Republican gun owners and 23,562,000 Republicans living in gun owning households.

"32.5 million registered voters identified themselves as independents"

32.5 * .32 = 10,400,000 Independent gun owners and 13,650,000 Independents living in gun owning households.

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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh really??! We don't have guns?

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 25 points 3 months ago (6 children)

As I've been saying, the people on the political left need to get strapped, they need to train, and they need to organize. Laws and cops aren't going to protect you, esp. when most cops are on the side of Trump. All of the laws trying to ban guns and prevent most citizens from owning them are going to do is make it ever easier for the boot of the authoritarians to crush you.

You need to take that power back, and remind the police that they only get to enforce laws by the consent of the people.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Who says they already aren't? We just don't make it our entire personality.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Or you could just drive two people under 30 to the polls.

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[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 24 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Oh I don’t have any guns I guess. They can come test this theory on me and my friends, they might be sad at the outcome, well for a couple seconds before they succumb to the darkness.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 55 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Newsmax: you city people better be scared because we have all the guns

Also Newsmax: Gun laws won't reduce gun violence, cities are full of guns!

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

These people are scared of fucking Seattle and Portland, they’ll fafo real quick if they try to roll into Atlanta, Memphis, or Chicago thinking they’ll be the most well armed

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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

I'm really glad that the trump presidency woke up a bunch of my liberal/progressive friends, as for the longest time I was the only one with firearms. Now, it's like 85% who have firearms. I don't think the meal team 6 guys know the rest of us are packing a lot more heat now.

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[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just a reminder that the Nazi party regularly said shit like this leading up to the Holocaust. The idea was to make it seem like, to the public, that they have been regularly giving warnings to and negotiating with Jewish people about their need to relocate out of Germany and give up their property, and that the refusal to cooperate was going to force Germany to use violence.

It was all propaganda. The intent from the beginning was to commit violence.

All of the people Republicans are mad out right now - queer people, educators, health care professionals, and social workers to name a few - are all being given "warnings", with increasingly violent rhetoric attach, priming their base to eventually resort to violence when those targets "refuse to cooperate". Really what they mean is "Never do anything that disagrees with our far right agenda, or we will murder you".

The Fascists want a civil war. In their fantasy it plays out like The Purge where the big strong patriots destroy all the scary black bloc antifa terrorists and usher in a new era. The reality is that it would just result in a domestic crisis that on top of traumatizing the general public, would destabilize the country enough to permanently destroy our place in the world as a superpower.

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[–] yemmly@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (6 children)

This disparity really does concern me. Non-MAGA people need to arm themselves. I know, I know. Guns are bad. But fascist tyranny is worse.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 35 points 3 months ago

You would be surprised how many on the left own guns and know how to use them. Also, while military membership leans conservative, they do not tend to like Trump.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

Big blue cities ain’t exactly running low on guns.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is exactly what gun makers want.

This is not the solution.

Plus in the end, it's not about the quantity, but how you use them.

And we're not alone in this. There's the National Guard too.

Don't fall for the fear mongering.

Their "best" chance at doing anything of consequence was January 6 (in quotes because we know how that played out.) What makes you think this time around will be different?

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[–] Mobiuthuselah@lemm.ee 18 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Hey, hey. This comes from a place of fear and that's okay, but recognize it for what it is. Buying guns in fear is what gets people hurt. If you choose to buy a gun for the first time, take proficiency courses. Learn the legal responsibilities that come with it. If you're genuinely concerned, protect yourself in a responsible way. That may or may not be with a firearm. There are many ways to protect yourself. Take martial arts classes for instance.

This may seem like a wild suggestion, but try therapy. It did wonders for my anxiety. Seriously. I don't worry as much. I don't live in fear. I have friends ALL across the political spectrum. We get along fine. We treat each other with love and respect. The news and media drums up fear and excitement for attention. It's what sells ads.

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They can only fire one at a time.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They haven't even unlocked dual wield yet? Pathetic.

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[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 3 months ago (8 children)

This felon doesn't have any capacity for contrition. He genuinely believes he is above the law. It's unfathomable to him that he is being held to account.

There is no doubt in my mind that were he not a former president, a judge would lock him up. Contrition is an important component of the legal system. Felon's need to understand that their behavior is unacceptable.

I wonder if a judge could make him bend the knee. "Acknowledge your wrong doing and you don't need to go to jail."

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

And so... the traction begins. This is not just a freakout - this is going to supply them with a fake "victimhood" narrative they couldn't have managed by themselves and that will escalate beyond November.

I hope the liberals have a plan for what's going to happen when the nazis and their pig protectors hit the streets again - or, at least, a better plan than, "let's heckle antifa from the sidelines like we did in 2016!"

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