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[–] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 109 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Rev Left Radio being called "Misleading" is so fucking bonkers to me.

Breht is such a thoughtful and genuine guy. And the show has so many guests on with differing perspectives. Like, yeah ok, some of those guests might say things one disagrees with, are debated within a given field, or are otherwise occasionally incorrect. But the ethos of that show is about getting the listener to know how to think, and thoughtfully approach things, from a broad left perspective. It's not just feeding you normative claims and calling it a day.

Anyway, go listen to RevLeft, Breht is such a gift

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 95 points 5 months ago

This is just a "supports author's worldview" chart. Peak liberal "reputable sources" ideology

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 72 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Ad Fontes never analyzed or listened to the show. They noticed that it was "far-left" (it's in the name!). And far-left = biased = misleading/unfactual, by definition. It's that simple.

[–] Parent@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What is Ad Fontes and how did they even know about RevLeft? I feel like RevLeft is pretty off the radar.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 36 points 5 months ago

Probably just searched "radical leftist podcast" and randomly assigned the list into the evil tankie zone.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Rev Left: "Marx said this: [Reads accurate quote.]"

Ad Fontes: "No he didn't"

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[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 77 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Hexbear news thread too far up and left to be on the chart

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 51 points 5 months ago

Hexbear News is the most trusted name in shitposting.

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[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 73 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lmao at Bill Maher being remotely left. This chart is so lib it might as well be a Harry Potter reference

[–] Florn@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It treats fucking NPR as definitionally trustworthy and unbiased

[–] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When you're a lib, NPR seems like the gospel truth and you feel very smug about listening to it. Before I had fully understood and rejected liberalism (voted for Stein in 2012 out of disgust with Obama, but still had a ways to go), I spent a good few years listening to Morning Edition, All Things Considered, and Wait! Wait! Don't Tell Me (their weekly news quiz) religiously. The concept of a news quiz is incredibly enticing to libs--my lib mom loves doing the NYT news quiz every week to test "how much she knows" (i.e. how much propaganda + useless trivia she's been fed), and I felt the same way about being able to answer questions in WWDTM. And as for the morning and afternoon news programs, they cover a wide variety of (uncontroversial) topics and are Fair and Balanced™ (i.e. they have center-right and far-right guests) which makes you feel worldly and broad-minded.

But as the 2016 presidential campaign dragged on I started to see just how ridiculous their coverage of Bernie was--outright mocking him and his supporters, pretty much, which seemed at odds with their supposedly neutral editorial position. I think the final straw for me was in the early days of the Trump Administration, when they brought on a cavalcade of cartoonishly evil goons from the Trump Administration to lie through their teeth, which the reporters would barely push back on (because that would be partisan!); I remember their "interview" (more of a press release) of Sebastian Gorka right after the Muslim travel ban being particularly shameful. But again, I was already on the path to the left. If you're a comfortable lib, the actual policies don't matter--the calm, authoritative voices of the NPR hosts and their unwavering civility in the face of pure evil soothes your mind, and instead of worrying your head about "issues" you just collect "facts" about the events of the week so you can stay "informed", although since you have no actual political goals there is seemingly no purpose to this other than appearing smart to other libs when you go to brunch.

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[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 72 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Citations needed is where NPR News hour sits. It's centrist, even totally apolitical (just balls and strikes), and extremely fact based and unbiased. If you think it's left wing it's because you're a nazi shit head liar like everyone else in this fucked wasteland we call society and that's just an unbiased fact.

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[–] Owl@hexbear.net 71 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The lie they're trying to tell doesn't even require it to be boomerang shaped, they could fill in the bottom center with trashy tabloid stuff and make it more believable, while still appealing to their audience's biases.

But they're so high on their own supply that they can't take that easy win, so they ranked Joe Rogan as less misleading than revleft.

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 64 points 5 months ago (2 children)

so they ranked Joe Rogan as less misleading than revleft.

Truly wild.

Rev Left: "This week we have an author talking about their book"

Rogan: "Jamie, pull up that video of those two aliens fucking"

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 65 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Imagine thinking Joe Rogan has more media value than Rev Left holy moly

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 55 points 5 months ago

Data must be molded to preserve horseshoe theory.

[–] Parent@hexbear.net 36 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Lol Revleft often has on professors from accredited universities as guests. Rogan has on former WWE wrestlers and comedians.

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[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 65 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Damn did they leave trueanon out this time?

Snub Brace Belden at your own risk, The Media Bias Chart brace-cowboy

[–] buh@hexbear.net 39 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it's too high up and far left to fit in the chart

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[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 37 points 5 months ago

They seem to change it up year by year. Trueanon being to the right of CNN, Anderson Cooper, and MSNBC was chefs-kiss though

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 61 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The hyperpartisan left is when you apply critical analysis to media and back it up with extensive citations.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago

No, they don't cite things. They need citations. It's right there in the name

[–] dead@hexbear.net 61 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I'm a surprised that Virgil is still in the Bad Faith logo. I had to look it up and he's still in the logo on the official site as well. The last episode that Virgil was on was Episode 78 in June 2021. Brie just released episode 375 this week and Virgil is still in the cover. Why is she holding on to this?

[–] Speaker@hexbear.net 39 points 5 months ago

He's running.

[–] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago
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[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 59 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Never trust anyone who makes graphs. Anyone who has made a graph outside of work or school is a counter revolutionary

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

How much of a lib you are 📈📈📈

My patience for people who are not Data Driven 📉📉📉

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Real photo of a person who is Data Driven

nerd

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Real photo of a person who is Data

data-outdoor-cat

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago

Real photo of a person who is Data Driven

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Graphs are primarily for meme purposes now

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago

Another apologist for Big Graph. Suckered in by all thse flashy graph advertisements on TV

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[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

What if I made graphs to figure out the odds of an opposed roll in an RPG, but I did it during work hours?

EDIT: Wait graph is probably a strong word, it was just an Excel tab, didn't even use pivot tables.

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[–] CrispyFern@hexbear.net 50 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bad faith is covered up to ONLY virgil is visible he-laughed

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[–] Leon_Frotsky@hexbear.net 49 points 5 months ago (1 children)

bill maher going under "skews left" is wild

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[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 46 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

ah yes, citations needed, the "hyper partisan" podcast that spends all of its run time telling you exactly how every awful policy in this country is bipartisan and democrats are bloodthirsty capitalist racist imperialist colonialist ghouls who you should under no circumstances pledge your fealty to.

bowtie dipshit bell curve fetishizing media pathologically incapable of decoupling partisanship from politics and imagining a world outside their narrow overton window despite it being literally 110% of what Citations Needed talks about during any given episode, which surely they listened to at least a few before plotting them on this graph, right???? peppino-angry

[–] red_stapler@hexbear.net 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How is one of the pod Johns more left than citations-needed

[–] fox@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lovett or Leave It is also straight up a comedy news podcast like Wait Wait Don't Tell Me, they're not trying to be factual

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[–] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 44 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Rev Left being on the same level as Timcast is farcical. What on earth in the methodology for this?

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 46 points 5 months ago

The methodology is that the left must be as bad as the right, so put media things on here until it forms a horseshoe.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago

It's simple, start with the conclusion that the center (99% Hitler) is objectively correct and that "reliability" decreases as you move towards the evil 1984 totalitarian extremes and work backwards to shoehorn the data into your prebuilt model.

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 43 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I gave Dumb Gay Podcast a listen. They blamed Iran for people not voting Biden and enthusiastically cheered on the US taking Taiwan. I think the person making this graph just looked at the title and assumed it was radical left.

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[–] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 37 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Accuracy in media, in theory: "Both the extreme left and extreme right represent equal and oppositely biased perspective on the same facts, so they will naturally cancel out if you stay between them."

That theory, applied: "We must abolish the class system in order to prevent the frogs from turning gay."

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[–] dat_math@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

lmaoooo less reliable than Bad Faith?

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[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago

Its a horseshoe 🐴👞

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