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Aid workers fear a new disaster as militia forces close in on a major Darfur city.

On a sunny April afternoon in 2006, thousands of people flocked to the National Mall in Washington, D.C., for a rally with celebrities, Olympic athletes, and rising political stars. Their cause: garner international support to halt a genocide in Sudan’s Darfur region.

“If we care, the world will care. If we act, then the world will follow,” Barack Obama, then the junior Illinois senator, told the crowd, speaking alongside future House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. That same week, then-Sen. Joe Biden introduced a bill in Congress calling on NATO to intervene to halt the genocide in Sudan. “We need to take action on both a military and diplomatic front to end the conflict,” he said.

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 56 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I mean, they’re ignoring the one in Palestine and the one in China, and even taking sides against Ukraine, so how is this any different?

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 47 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Palestine seems like 60% of what I hear about in national news and on Lemmy. Ukraine, though, no so much. People can't use it to talk shit about Biden, after all.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 25 points 5 months ago (4 children)

The Kremlin is pumping social media full of anti-Biden propaganda, using Israel's genocide as a wedge to split the Democratic vote so they can get Trump elected again.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, 100% agree. No coincidence Netanyahu is a far right fascist and would prefer Trump himself.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

Yes, people act like they're going to piss off Israel's government by not voting for Biden. Bibi says thank you.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago

People can’t use it to talk shit about Biden, after all.

No. The Kremlin and Trumpers are using it to single out Biden so people will forget them and trade Bad for Much Worse.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

ignoring the one in Palestine

???

It's impossible to go on any social media without hearing about it.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 12 points 5 months ago

But no one is stopping it, so they’re ignoring it

[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The United Nations has been reporting the famine and war crimes in Sudan for decades.

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hate to say it but it's been going on for too long, most people don't care anymore. New conflicts have taken the spotlight.

[–] livus@kbin.social 18 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Doesn't really explain it, I mean the underlying Palestine/Israel thing has been going on for decades too.

The current Sudanese Civil War has only been going on for 6 months longer than the current Israel vs Gaza hostilities.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Thats an easy one, America isn't openly funding the side committing genocide and threatening to liberate anyone who doesn't like what they do back into the stone age, in Sudan.

Its really not hard to see, if you're prepared to see it.

[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago

Definitely. The US isn't likely to like either side given one of them is tight with Iran and the other one has dealings with Russian mercenaries.

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[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The honest answer is that I can only care about so many ongoing genocides at once before I go numb towards it. And I am more invested in the one happening two countries over. And the absurdly cynical one committed by a people who had plenty of genocides happen against them over the course of history.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, Ill go fix it now that you've brought it to my attention.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

No Jira ticket, no fixy.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How many concurrent genocides do we have going on right now in the world? Like four? Five? I'm not sure.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] livus@kbin.social 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not all armed conflicts are genocides.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Indeed, but normally you need a suspension of normal life like a war to make a genocide possible, so it is more useful to look at this very comprehensive list to be aware of potential or ongoing genocides than wait for one to have been officially confirmed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides find one that isn't associated with a war.

[–] livus@kbin.social 10 points 5 months ago

@victorz - The "fast"/ big obvious ones are Darfur and Gaza, but there's also probably Oromia, slow genocide in West Papua, Western Sahara, Xinjiang, and I think Nagorny-Karabakh and Tigray could start up again at some point. There is obviously a genocidal component to the Tatmadaw's activities in Myanmar but right now they seem to be getting their asses kicked by the alliance which includes ethnic minority armies.

Then there are the more obscure genocides that are mostly only mentioned outside western and english-language news media, for example the ongoing slow genocide of the Baloch people in the Balochistan region.

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

This is literally the first time I'm hearing about it

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 13 points 5 months ago

Looming? Sudan is past the looming stage. When do known verified atrocities reach "current reality" status?

[–] machineLearner@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

In the US at least, our policy today doesn’t affect this genocide. Outside of Sudan, the important parties are Egypt, the UAE, and factions in Libya. Whereas in Palestine US missiles and funding to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars are directly involved, US policy today does not affect Sudan materially.

Still though, the UN and other international organs are documenting and attempting to aid. It’s just not disputed by far right fucks in our government.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

shouldn't that be "why is the world ignoring a looming genocide in sudan again?"

[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We can’t even handle the genocides we have now. Someone wants another? Ffs.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Could it be our weakness to act that is encouraging more genocides?

[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah probably. But what do we do? “Vote?” “Protest?” That’s just thoughts and prayers. We have very little control over our governments in the short term and no control of—or right to control—another country. What is there?

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Agitate, educate, organize. Vote, protest, unionize, build political coalitions, support local progressive politicians, etc. We need to do everything, and anything helps. We, the people, have all the power. To use it, we need to act collectively.

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[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pulls out Peter Griffin skin tone threat chart

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

tbf they didn't care about the bosnian genocide either

They should update that meme with a list of money sources

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Get in line behind Palestine and the Uyghurs so we can ignore you too!

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It isn't trendy and I don't get to cosplay like I care about it.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Some people put their politics ahead of genocide. They'll deny it's a genocide if it doesn't fit their agenda. They'll take an absolute stance if it does fit their agenda.

It's a tale as old as time. Chomsky is a very good example of this.

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[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Sudan isn't popular because it's difficult to tie either side of the conflict to a specific political party. No one gets too many political points for speaking for/against.

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[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Because ignoring genocides is what the world does.

[–] livus@kbin.social 3 points 5 months ago

Because neither side is America's aIly of course.

I went on tiktok yesterday and noticed a bunch of Gen Z mentioning Sudan and DRC as well as the Gaza Genocide. So that was better than usual.

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