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[–] doctortofu@reddthat.com 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

SearXNG - it's a meta-engine that serves results from a combination of other ones (you can set up which ones you want to use). I like it a lot. Here's a list of public instances: https://searx.space/

[–] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I host my own instance for that added oomph.

[–] acetanilide@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just started using this one and it is crazy how different the experience is

[–] doctortofu@reddthat.com 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right? So much better it's not even funny. It was recommended to me here on Lemmy a while ago, and I couldn't be happier. Sometimes instances get clogged or go down, but it still beats any other search I tried by a mile.

[–] acetanilide@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago
[–] jet@hackertalks.com 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They all kinda suck.

I use DDG since it works without complaining on vpns, but if that doesn't work I fall back to google, and eventually kagi

Search is really terrible now

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

It will get much worse as soon as the internet had another 3-4 cycles where it has been digested to train LLMs and puked out again by LLMs to shitty websites. Then you have the option to search for that shit traditionally or to use another shitty LLM on top of that

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What is your beef with Kagi? I've found it pretty useful

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You have to login, so it isn't very privacy respecting.

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[–] greatbarriergeek@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago
[–] 098qwelkjzxc 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They're all crap because they all track you, but I stick with DuckDuckGo because I find their lies about not tracking me to be comforting enough

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah wait, how do they make money

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 points 5 months ago
[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My own self-hosted SearXNG.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How does that work, does it go out and start indexing the internet for you?

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's a meta search engine. It queries other search engines and compiles you results.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's a shame, It would be more interesting to run your own crawlers.

(Yes I realise that would be computationally intense and hard, but it would nonetheless be cool)

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

There is probably a neat wget oneliner that could crawl everything on the open web. The real challenge is how to index all the information. That might be a neat Perl oneliner.

[–] Bebo@literature.cafe 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Mostly using DDG now for sometime. Once in a while need to use Google.

[–] dkc@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’ve found for the last 3-4 years I haven’t had to fall back to Google. DDG results have been good enough I can use it full time.

[–] Bebo@literature.cafe 3 points 5 months ago

In my case I've found the need to use Google for local searches, and certain very specific searches (one example is journal impact factors). In a lot of other cases, DDG has actually given me better results - I was getting fed up with some of the crappy results I was getting using Google, which prompted me to try out and eventually shift to DDG.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

AskJeeves should be rebooted with a LLM

[–] Coherence@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago
[–] helmet91@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm using Qwant. Works better for me than DuckDuckGo.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Another Qwant person! I'm enjoying it.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People here need to try Qwant. It's refreshing how clean it is and I think the search results are pretty good

[–] hitagi@ani.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Qwant isn’t available in a lot of countries though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwant

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 5 months ago

Thanks for pointing this out! I finally have the reason to use the mullvad per site proxy settings.

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago
[–] traches@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

DDG for me, but mostly I use !wi and !gh. Pretty rare to do a rawdog search

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

DDG, but ever so often I have to use bangs to Google or some dedicated sites. Been trying out my own instance of the SearchX meta search engine but honestly it's not that much of a difference except it lags. I've been using ChatGPT way more for direct questions instead of using search words and sifting through the results, with the risk of hallucination so still need to double check on important stuff. Copilot sort of works but I don't know why I'm not comfortable with it. Too bad Gemeni seems to be a dud so far. I'd love to see a FOSS language model that can be tweaked for personal interests and custom commands for external APIs and that gives references to the answers.

[–] brb@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

DDG for everyday browsing and Kagi's free trial for more "difficult" searches.

I'm not sure how many Kagi searches I have left but I'm most likely buying the unlimited plan when I run out.

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Ecosia. I don’t like their links to Microsoft but I think the environment is more important than anything these days.

[–] 7uWqKj@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Where, sadly, „search engine“ essentially means „Bing frontend“ these days …

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I've been using kagi the past few months

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Duckduckgo. Just moved to it within the year, and it's been fine for my basic searches.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 3 points 5 months ago

I've been using kagi for a while now, but I'm not ready to pay for search results. So I'll basically stick with google plus a bunch of excluded terms for the time being, and use the free search contingent from kagi if that doesn't yield and useful results regardless.

[–] WheelcharArtist@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago
[–] Jourei@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Ecosia is fine. All of them seem to be trash these days so might as well go with the quirky one.

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

DDG works just fine for my purposes.

[–] ironsoap@lemmy.one 3 points 5 months ago

Kagi.com

Paid, but less crap.

[–] SleepyWheel@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just cancelled Kagi. It's good but not really good enough to justify the cost, plus stuff detailed here https://www.osnews.com/story/139270/do-not-use-kagi/

I gave yandex a quick run, it's actually very good, functionally, but a privacy nightmare.

Currently trying out Mojeek, one of the few outside the big three to have it's own index. Pretty good - not all the conveniences of the bigger ones but maybe good enough most of the time

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 2 points 5 months ago

I'm a Kagi user ... I've also previously responded to the referenced post on Kagi.

https://alexandrite.app/social.packetloss.gg/comment/1704525

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

startpage.com or DuckDuckGo

[–] dvdnet62@feddit.nl 2 points 5 months ago
[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

I've been using bing for a few years now they kinda got me in when they were paying people to use it and I was also working with Microsoft and wanted to see what was up. its actually not bad. it being the first one to roll out ai was a bonus too. y'all may hate everything I just said but its been working well for me, and in the rare times it doesn't I try others.

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I use startpage but there really is no "good" option

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