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Its like Hillary walking into a working class kitchen for the first time.

They've been shielded from even critical support of China and other AES for so long they literally, not figuratively, literally cannot process that people exist that have beliefs that aren't Reddit Approved. They immediately assume it's bots or wumao. Human beings can't possibly hold these beliefs, so they must be Oriental hordes or actual robots.

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[–] HighOnCopium@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)
  

 πŸ”Ί    This place is a RussianChinese bot farm disinformation campaign 
 69k   filled with CCP shills and Russian trolls. 
 πŸ”»    I doubt there are any real human posters here. 
      
       Edit1: Wow, so many updoots! 
       Edit2: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger! 

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

This formatting is incredible, a real work of art.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

It looks like that nuclear waste sign. The "This place is not a place of honor" thing.

[–] ennemi@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

I tried to click the upvote button but nothing happened !!!

[–] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

I doubt there are any real human posters here.

redditors are indistinguishable from any AI algorithm response

[–] ChapoKrautHaus@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

I doubt there are any real human posters here.

Well, we're certainly different from the humans you seem to be used to, my lib dude.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I was honestly not excited about federation and still think we will be de-federated within hours (is that possible?) because liberals cannot stand being so consistently embarrassed by Marxists BUT I will say that a major factor in my radicalization was finding r/chapotraphouse years ago back on reddit. For every lib we dunk on, others will start to wonder and ask questions and even laugh along with communist jokes (by far the funniest on the internet). Liberalism actually has an extremely limited appeal, the democrats excite almost no one, and it’s true that some of their more lukewarm supporters just don’t know that you can fight liberalism without being a fucking nazi.

[–] Taako_Tuesday@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago (11 children)

I would disagree that liberalism has "extremely limited" appeal. Many people are perfectly happy with the mediocrity offered by liberalism, and that's one of the major challenges, that so many people prefer it over radical change of any kind.

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

Liberalism: acceptable to many, desirable to few.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I mean it's boosted by the fact that it's the dominant ideology and permeates everything. for most people, it's existed without question their entire lives. so I'm not sure how happy people will be with it when they're offered a real alternative, even among people who objectively benefit from it.

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[–] duderium@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I suppose, but I was increasingly frustrated by the way democrats endlessly kowtowed to republicans and how they got nothing, absolutely nothing in return for it. I thought it was just an issue with β€œcorporate democrats” at first, until I witnessed Bernie and AOC’s total capitulation in 2020 and began to understand that this country’s problems go way deeper than fucking campaign contributions. R/chapotraphouse really helped provide answers for my questions, namely reading Marxist theory and history (and responding to fascists and liberals with pigpoopballs).

[–] Chapo0114@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

For me, it was when Bernie campaigned harder for Hillary than she had campaigned for Obama, and then also how "Bernie Bros" were blamed for her ensuing loss to a human cheeto.

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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I literally found CTH because I saw liberals on r/latestagecapitalism talking about "the scary dirtbag chapos" who "tell right-wingers to post hog" and was thought to myself "Wait no these people sound awesome, actually. I am so sick of people trying to play nice with actual Nazis" and decided to see what you guys were actually like and it turns out you aren't scary at all. Lol.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

I also found LSC first, then after someone mentioned CTH I started lurking there, because it was just better. After CTH was banned, LSC went full LIB with Bill Gates praising and shit, and it was just depressing to read at that point.

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Beep boop I am programmed to destroy the west boop beep.

Good bot. Start any time, the people of the west yearn for freedom.

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Chinese bot accounts have more humanity than western liberals

[–] rubpoll@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Say what you will about those Chinese bots, I've never heard one advocate for a nuclear holocaust.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Chinese bot: "I'm just wandering around China eating good food and enjoying scenery. Look at this cool train and neat skyscrapers. Panda!"

Western liberal: "BLOOD! BLOOD! BLOOD! THE LINE CAN ONLY BE APPEASED BY THE SACRIFICE OF THE VITAL ESSENSE OF THE POOR ON THE ALTAR OF CIVILITY!"

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago
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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Put it this way, CTH was tiny compared to the size of reddit yet it had such an impact on the site that Reddit's admins wanted it gone to stop the left pressure it created.

Hexbear is significantly larger comparatively when compared with the size of Lemmy. The influence we have on Lemmy is larger than it was on reddit. Currently at least, assuming Lemmy continues to grow that might not be true in future, but for now it absolutely is. Particularly because we're only on a few instances.

[–] Sinister@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Because CTH established one of the essential steps towards a revolutionary movement: β€œan alternative cultural pole”. So it was dangerous and had to be destroyed.

[–] ConsciousLochNess@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is "an alternative cultural pole" a phrase from some theoretical work? Asking because it sounds interesting, and I came up short on DuckDuckGo.

[–] Sinister@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I made it up lol, but its from gramsci, I think he used countercultural hegemon or something.

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[–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hexbear has 565 users/day and there are not even 500 upbears on this thread.

owl-pissed

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[–] seas_surround@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

uncritical support to comrade @GarbageShoot@hexbear.net's efforts to kindly engage with the libs in the anti China thread that's active right now. I appreciate that someone is in there not just sending ppb but I'm not gonna do it lol

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[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I actually don't think I've seen anything like this on this site before:

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

oh back when the site first launched, comments would get squished until they were 1 character wide, so the replies would be entirely vertical. and the threads would continue anyway because people were replying from their inbox.

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[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (6 children)
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[–] betelgeuse@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

WAIT A MINUTE THAT'S NOT FROM AN APPROVED SOURCE ON MY MEDIA BIAS INFOGRAPHIC.

MODS MODS PLEASE REMOVE THIS

THESE CLAIMS AREN'T BACKED BY A DNC NGO, THEREFORE IT'S DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION THAT'S HELPING REPUBLICANS WIN.

THOSE ATROCITIES COMMITTED BY THE US WERE NECESSARY TO DEVELOP THE RULES BASED INTERNATIONAL ORDER, I'M SORRY IT HAPPENED BUT WE COULDN'T BE HERE NOW WITHOUT IT.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

WHY ARE THERE OVER 700 COMMENTS ON THIS

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE, COMRADES?!

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

chart for visiting libs to throw a dart at before calling us tankies

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

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[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Everybody posting from a Hexbear account can instantly be disregarded as a Russian bot. They need to read more Wikipedia pages about China and North Korea instead of fairy tales about make believe economics

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[–] wombat@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

[–] supermangoman@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To any wandering libs, if you want to better understand our perspective, listen to a season of Blowback: https://blowback.show/Season-2

Or really anybody who wants to understand the Iraq War, the history of the United States and Cuba, and the Korean War from a leftist perspective. Really good reporting, includes original interviews with still living people that lived through that history.

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[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm going to lock this thread at some point tonight, so that other threads may be born.

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