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A lawyer allied with President Donald J. Trump first laid out a plot to use false slates of electors to subvert the 2020 election in a previously unknown internal campaign memo that prosecutors are portraying as a crucial link in how the Trump team’s efforts evolved into a criminal conspiracy.

Archive link: https://archive.ph/8wqCP

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[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But even if the plan did not ultimately pass legal muster at the highest level, Mr. Chesebro argued that it would achieve two goals. It would focus attention on claims of voter fraud and “buy the Trump campaign more time to win litigation that would deprive Biden of electoral votes and/or add to Trump’s column.”

The memo had been a missing piece in the public record of how Mr. Trump’s allies developed their strategy to overturn Mr. Biden’s victory. In mid-December, the false Trump electors could go through the motions of voting as if they had the authority to do so. Then, on Jan. 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence could unilaterally count those slates of votes, rather than the official and certified ones for Joseph R. Biden Jr.

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't this the shit that they used to publically hang you for?

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately no, If we had hung all the conspirators of the Business Plot, we wouldn't be dealing with this shit today.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was a “bold, controversial strategy” in the same way that firing on Fort Sumter was a bold, controversial strategy.

[–] yip-bonk@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Deep cuts, yo!

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We know he's guilty, he knows he's guilty, the judge, lawyers, jury, etc. all know he's guilty. We knew it on jan 6 and we know it now. The time for a trial was years ago. And now that it's here it's dragging ass. How many examples of blatant disregard for the law is it going to take for this flap jowled pig fucker to see a prison cell? Jeeeesus christ

[–] yip-bonk@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago
[–] HaiZhung@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

This is not a trial of trump.

This is a trial of the American justice system.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How many smoking guns we’ve had so far? I have lost count

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're not "smoking guns". They're evidence supporting a charge.

[–] ScrivenerX@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

He wasn't "caught red handed" he was caught with a preponderance of evidence implicating him.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You must be fun at parties. No duh it's evidence. It's cut and dry evidence of conspiracy, so compelling that it's almost like he metaphorically killed someone and is standing over their dead body with a smoking gun. You didn't see the gunshot, but you can be 99% sure of who the shooter was.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s cut and dry evidence of conspiracy

Yeah - As a rule I don't take legal advice from randos on Lemmy. So far it's been a good rule.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We haven't had one like that. That's a document linked to Trump that shows Trump knew he lost.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Talk about throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks.

Even acknowledging that the Supreme Court would reject it. A Supreme Court they stacked in their favor. What the absolute fuck lol

[–] yip-bonk@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Remember that Venezuela coup they sponsored? That was like 3 actual ex-Navy guys and about 20 fishermen whose boats they hired? Lasted all of 10 minutes? That’s the brain trust behind the big lie. Master strategists they ain’t. I mean, thank goodness, since they’re utterly devoid of scruples, ethics, honor, or simple human decency.

[–] ghostBones@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Uhh, I have a law degree. I can make big crime look legit."

"Mr. President, this could be insane and dangerous!"

"Nah. Hold my diet coke."

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That archive link is just an endless I am not a robot bullshit

[–] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So it wasn't just me? 'Check all the boxes with a bike'. Fail. Maybe there was a bike behind a house or something...

Edit: Worked fine on my phone.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

You guys are probably using privacy enhancing browsers, signs of the WebDRM technologies starting to be used. They want to track you or you don't get to access their content.

[–] erte@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it’s crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on its back. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can’t, not without your help. But you’re not helping. Why is that?

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

You want me to tell you about my mom? My mother?

Blamo!

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have cookies turned off or something? I accidentally opened a link in Firefox the other day and got hit with that until I realized I have Firefox set to never keep any history, cookies, etc.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am using Firefox on mobile but it has the default settings, I even tried it in private mode which is more settings enabled or relaxed.

Oh well

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Weird, I use Firefox on Android and it worked for me.