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Over 30 pro-Palestine protesters arrested at Ohio State: what we know (www.nbc4i.com)

submitted 6 months ago by juicy@lemmy.today to c/world@lemmy.world

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COLUMBUS, Ohio (WCMH) – Ohio State University police and the Ohio State Highway Patrol arrested about three dozen people Thursday night for staging a pro-Palestine encampment on campus – carrying out what is likely the highest number of protest-related arrests there since the Vietnam War.

After hours of peaceful protest on the South Oval behind the Ohio Union, dozens of officers clad in riot gear descended on the crowd, handcuffing protesters and carrying them to Franklin County sheriff’s buses parked nearby. Several protesters were arrested earlier in the day for pitching tents on campus, but police watched for hours – occasionally issuing threats of arrest – when hundreds of protesters returned in the evening.

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[–] WhyDoYouPersist@lemmy.world 98 points 6 months ago (1 children)

[...] carrying out what is likely the highest number of protest-related arrests there since the Vietnam War.

That's pretty telling of the state of things.

[+] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -50 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you listen to Biden supporters, everything's fine and anyone who says different lives in Russia...

What's really disappointing is seeing Dems go down the same path republicans just ran down.

[–] WhyDoYouPersist@lemmy.world 39 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I actually don't personally know any Biden supporters to verify that statement. I do, however, know many people who will vote for a second term of this second-quartile-ranked president rather than the bottom quartile anaerobic bacteria that we had before. Those people are very painfully aware that not much is "fine" and the US--and the rest of the worldwide governments--have a long way to go.

Most rational people realize that we don't need a middling, above-average option as president, we need literal superheros as politicians in all seats of all branches of government. That will never happen. However, I'm one of like a thousand who vote in my local elections (not just general), which is insane considering the size of my district. It all starts small. If you want to dismantle a compromised DNC, tear it out by the roots, not the head.

I'm very glad these folks are standing up for what they think is necessary, even in the face of establishment antagonism and some unhinged cops. I hope this spreads like wildfire. We have bigger things to tackle as a species in the year 2024 than stopping sponsored genocide. The sooner we can put pressure on Israel to cease their onslaught, the better.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But the roots of the compromised DNC are its corporate donors, not your choice of county commissioner. How do you suggest we actually tear it out by the roots?

[–] WhyDoYouPersist@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're right, my mistake. I just meant the Democratic Party. Not like it isn't hive minded by corporate lobbying either, but what else is there to do but vote locally? Someone said recently that only voting in presidential races is like only throwing Hail Mary's.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sorry to be pessimistic. Voting local is a good thing, but I just dont see how local elections could ever add up to large systemic change that we agree is necessary. There is no way to vote out the military industrial complex.

What else is there to do? I think broad-based protest movements, like the moment for Palestinian liberation that we are watching today, have a shot at changing things. It's a long shot though - the same forces that crushed George Floyd, Occupy Wallstreet, anti-WTO, etc. will be back again with their winning tactics.

Overall I think our best hope is with organized labor. Join a union or create one.

[–] WhyDoYouPersist@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Overall I think our best hope is with organized labor. Join a union or create one.

Great point, I agree with you on that. Joining a union was the best thing I ever did, even though I'm no longer in that industry/active. In order to tackle the money side of this, it's important to remember that most Americans are all three: workers, voters, and consumers.

For those who can afford to do so: consuming/supporting local goods/services and avoiding national brands/distributors goes a long way. The new McDonald's that just got constructed in my town is way cheaper than supporting the local food truck but I'm fortunate to be able to support the local guys--I rued the day that McDonald's broke ground. I order straight from manufacturers when it makes sense, I buy books from small (online) book distributors or used at local small brick and mortar stores. I don't know if it makes any damn difference but it feels good, I have to speculate it will have a cumulative effect.

If I take a step back, the general throughline of any of these ideas is decentralization. We're doing it now, right here. For the individual, the easiest and most accessible way to apply it to politics directly is voting in local elections, which is why I first mentioned that. And of course, the very act of voting can be prohibitive for many, I'm not discounting that.

Broad-based protests do work in my mind, and I posit that they sort of have an inverted bell curve effect. Immediately during and after the protests, they raise awareness, draw media frenzy, and stay afloat in current events and discussion. However, months to years later, after the media has moved on and something else is more novel to talk about (like how the West pivoted from Ukraine to Palestine), it can feel like nothing came about, or too little, too late. However in the long term, it seems like a shift can come about that colors the mindset of a generation and those after it. In the case of George Floyd, I'm a white guy and never had many issues with cops. Before that instant I may have even occasionally been a cop apologist when I was younger. But once that event happened and I joined the marches for awareness, I could never see them the same way again. I will now always have my eyes open when seeing cops interact with others. To turn away and pretend every interaction someone is having with a cop is innocent is naive and dangerous, certainly enabling.

Sorry for the ramblings, I'm no poly sci major, I'm probably not even smart enough to write the above with any confidence. It's all just my opinions there so take it for what you will.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 85 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Hey, gen Z, Gen alpha, Gen beta... Millennial here.

We almost, almost fucked shit up with occupy wall st. We just... Had no direction.

Please, be more hardcore, dont just stink up parks and play frisbee. Here's some great advice.

Learn from our mistakes. Do it better. Do it right. You know you have our support.

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[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, absolutely yes. Make them justify their existence to you, be kind, and think of the greater good as well.

E: I don't quite see how this got misinterpreted as disagreement, I'm fully agreeing here. Just saying to be kind once we gain control again as well.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

lol wut

They were trying to show encouragement. Are you high

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Read edit.

[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 32 points 6 months ago

You will have your tax dollars taken from you, for a maniacal government that is putting North Korea to shame.

You will not get medicare for all

You will not get help with education

You will not get help with the cost of living.

Please, do not protest. That makes us uncomfortable and we are really scared.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ohio State University police and the Ohio State Highway Patrol arrested about three dozen people Thursday night for staging a pro-Palestine encampment on campus – carrying out what is likely the highest number of protest-related arrests there since the Vietnam War.

Hopefully we don’t repeat anything else of Ohio universities during the Vietnam war, but I have basically zero faith in that.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 6 months ago

Would be nice if we didn't have people and politicians calling for exactly what happened at Kent state

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sorry but protecting the military industrial complex's support for apartheid and genocide is more important than your constitutional rights.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The military industrial complex can be repurposed for space exploration and settlement, and would yield far greater profits than what’s achieved from death and destruction. People who have stakes in these decisions already know this.

But you can only create exploitable working classes by perpetuating said death and destruction. Those who wish to remain in power keep perpetuating the same lies by keeping people divided based on arbitrary criteria like race, religion or whatever.

Edit to say there are sociopaths amongst us who want to harm others based on their own delusions, so the military industrial complex makes sense for creating defensive capabilities. However, enabling genocide or perpetuating unjust warfare will always create a cycle of bloodlust and violence. Again, the stakeholders of these decisions know this. Creating a cycle of violence and bloodlust serves their needs.

[–] O_i@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Land of the free lol

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

the military industrial complex is getting antsy and needs a new excuse to ramp up war production.

[–] intrepid@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

So, sending weapons for two full blown wars isn't satisfying enough for them?

Makes sense though. This is the same country that responds to school shootings by equipping teachers with more guns.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

So they didn’t just murder them this time? Well that’s nice.

Oh wait I’m thinking of Kent State.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

The land of the free!

[–] IcePee@lemmy.beru.co 5 points 6 months ago

Not sure that this is because the protest is against Israel or just this is a protest. After all, look what went down during the cessation of Occupy Wall street. Those guys were rough.

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