On that last part we can agree. Although maybe the next good question is whether we should be pushing political ideas via memes.

We're collectively maybe a quarter of a century late to that conversation, though.

lemmy commenters when a meme post on a meme channel doesn’t have the rhetorical nuance of a three hour video essay: 😡😡😡

Unfortunately for you, we're not here for memes but pointless internet arguments.

PS i am less mad than you

Lololol you use a meme as propaganda and then follow up with it's just a joke bruh.

Trump 101.

What on earth are you talking about? You can totally eat orange peels. They're not great, but become very special if cooked properly.

Given enough processing, apples and oranges are practically the same thing.

Now try bananas and naked mole rats!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apples_and_oranges

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Apples_vs_Oranges

The apples and oranges is more about someone going and eating an orange and then complaining it doesn't taste like an apple.

Like yeah it fucking doesn't it's a completely different thing.

Criticises observation for being wrong.

Sends example of observation being right.

Interestingly, that Wikipedia edit is NOT in the localized version of that page in languages from countries where people don't make that mistake. The disambiguation segment in that page is also inconsistent with the disambiguation in the democratic socialism page, where it says: "This article is about socialism emphasising democracy. For the form of democracy emphasising socialism, see Socialist democracy. For the ideology focusing on the humanisation of capitalism, see Social democracy."

Gotta love the pros and cons of crowdsourced knowledge.

So anyway, my local socialdemocrat party is very much a liberal center left party. Which you know because they often ally with the socialist and communist left, and things get tense there immediately, given the socialdemocrat party in question rejects Marxism outright since the 70s.

In all seriousness, I'd be willing to accept that in English political traditions they just use the terms differently based on some originalist historical approach as a result of not having an actual major social democrat party to keep up with that sets the commonly understood modern definition. That makes some sense. The problem is that even in English the terms are used inconsistently and mismatched to common understanding of the words worldwide, as helpfully demonstrated by Wikipedia here. As a result, I genuinely don't know what people from anglo territories in general and Americans specifically even mean when they talk about socialism online and I'm increasingly convinced that they don't either.

Nah I left when crime escalated to the point where it was a common occurance to get kidnapped and get a ride to multiple ATMs to get your wages directly stolen without recourse. Instead of increase the rule of law the country descended into anarchy and fear as a state sponsored policy.

Is sad to see the opportunity lost when people in public positions were rich overnight while we, the regular people lost our wages to the highest inflation in the world and violent crime.

I want to say yes F the exterior policies of the US meddling with all economic interests in the world, but don't lose focus because of this of the damaged Chavez and Maduro put on Venezuelans clinging to power.