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Cis men are heavily outnumbering even binary trans women right now...I think this leaked onto all
Or you may have more allies than you think.
I imagine that's because the post can be seen by anyone, not just subscribers.
What really surprises me is how few binary transmen there are here. In my local community it's roughly an even split.
I noticed the same thing from the original pie chart OP posted. Turns out there is research supporting the hypothesis that there are less people identifying as binary trans male overall.
Still really interested to see what the results of this poll will be, keeping in mind that the numbers may be influenced by non-subscribers and users from across the fediverse.
Edit: whoops, corrected "transmasculine" to "binary trans male" to avoid confusion.
No, that's not quite right. The source I posted just showed binary trans men as lower. Transmasculine nonbinary was a lot higher.
I was under the impression that there were significantly more transmen than women worldwide.
I seem to know more transmasculine people and trans men than transfeminine people and trans women IRL, but online, in my experience, there's always been way more trans women and transfeminine people than trans men and transmasculine people. AMABs regardless of gender or identity have always had the biggest hold on the Internet in my experience ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Seems like a definitive answer requires more research with higher sample size.
I've also noticed a difference in online exposure, and the difference in subscriber counts between FtM and MtF communities on Blåhaj Lemmy also suggest it's real thing.
But there's also the possibility that people don't want to identify with the "trans" label. Since modern models of gender identity require it to be treated as a high-dimensional vector, the spectrum representation probably doesn't cut it for a larger amount of people than we might be aware of.
I think polls like this are susceptible to troll votes
Yup i m a cis man myself abd foynd it on général but I interact frequently with this community so I think it s ok
That's fine
a lot of people are on this instance solely for 196 and/or because of v*ush
What is vush
vaush is a problematic internet debate nerd that a lot of younger baby leftists latch on to.
~~He recommended this instance because 196 had a comm here iirc.~~
His subreddit recommended it during the reddit/spez stuff.
196 also recommended blahaj.zone and they had a big vaush following in their userbase.
Why is vaush problematic? I'm out of the loop
He's been known to have chaser-y tendencies, he's been casually misogynistic and racist for the sake of winning "debates", he's been known to defend lowering the age of consent as well as the production of CSAM(child sexual abuse material), and most recently he's been known to collect loli and zoophilic (not furry) hentai.
"problematic" was me being generous.
He's the main reason 196 is so sectarian/"anti-tankie" as he has a lot of fans that post there.
Wow and here am I thinking it's common sense to be anti tankie bc of 196
What'd you mean by this?
I (ex tankie) thougt because of the anti takie sentiment in 196 that there were a lot of ppl in general that were againat takies, but this vaush stuff makes a lot more sense
Ah alright, yeah a lot of anti-tankie sentiment is concentrated online. Other spaces tend to be a lot less sectarian or at least more willing to listen/put aside differences.
Thank you for taking the time to explain it to me. I'll definitely avoid that guy's channel.
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Ally from all here. Surprised by all the CIS myself.
Haha. All the cis men.
I wonder what they would all choose a year from now 😘
I questioned and came to the conclusion that I'm quite happy where I am.
My partner is nonbinary though, so I lurk in these sorts of spaces so I have at least a little bit of community awareness and understanding.
Well that makes me happy to know there are allies like you ❤️
Eh, I just browse 'all'. Would I chose to be a woman if I had the chance at birth? Likely yes. But I quite like my ding-dong either way 😄
I am however quite jealous of women's fashion, the big scarfs, big wooly jumpers, and flowy textiles.
Oh boy.
Only thing I will say is many trans woman also have the same sentiment about their original bits.
Nothing but love ✌️
Fwiw, the impression I get is that there are a goodly number of cis folks here, with the intent of being supportive and learning more. I know that's why I'm here. It makes me happy when I see people that have a difficulty in their lives find a path to their own happiness.
I may not like every trans person I've ever met, but I love trans people.
Totally agree and my comment was completely in jest ❤️
Honestly it's refreshing to see support. Especially on the Internet where there is so much hate for us...
So thanks for speaking up and letting us know you exist 🥰
I like to keep aware of trans issues, discourse and general stuff so I can be more supportive of my boyfriend. Also if I see someone struggling with something he conquered, I'd love to be able to pass on anything that can help.
I love him dearly and I kinda see me trying to keep aware of trans stuff in my social media circles similar to him keeping aware of Jewish stuff in his social media circles.
Also, queer solidarity. ✊️
That is so beautiful of you. Thank you for being such a great support for your boyfriend and the community as a whole :)
I wonder if that's people seeing the poll link show up in global and then voting without reading the post text.
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For a second there this community was 100% binary trans men, haha
Btw, there's a deep annual survey at https://www.gendercensus.com . It's not specifically about this community, and excludes purely cis-binary people, but has interesting data & trends if you're into this sort of thing.
To clarify, that census specifically targets folk that aren't on the binary. Cis binary and trans binary folk aren't part of the target audience
That's fantastic. When the new survey comes out please let us know.
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A minor point but you only have 3 of the 5 nonbinary options. AFAB she/theys and AMAB he/theys aren't represented in the options.
Sorry, didn't mean to exclude. It won't let me edit the survey now unfortunately.
I'd pick "amab he/they" if it were there, very happy just to tick the "non-binary" button, don't feel excluded!
Prediction: there will a higher percentage of genderfluid people because i misread some people's comments on the other one
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What about adding the poll temporarily to the community resources section?
That way it is not just in everyone's feed, and it takes a little more efforty to participate. I'm active here, but I found this community through cross instance bleedover.
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