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From KyivPride in Ukraine
Ukrainian conscription officers crashed a Pride festival to kidnap more civilians into forced conscription
Isn't all conscription forced?
Also like I wouldn't want to be drafted but isn't it kinda progress for the Ukrainian army to draft gay people? Something most modern armies have avoided?
A separate thread about that would have been appreciated. It's something terrible that should be called out, but posting it as a response to this is like replying: "Ok, and??? Some people of the country they're invading are horrible anyway."
I don't get what vatniks and Russian trolls are trying to do. Yes, Ukraine is at war and conscription is enforced. So what? What do they expect from a country invaded unprovoked and in a total war as a result?
I think what trolls are trying to do is not trying to demoralise the opponents, but reinforce the propaganda back home in Russia. Russian propaganda is already telling the Russians that they are winning and Ukraine is losing, even though Russia have lost way more soldiers than Ukrainians did in terms of ratio. Yes, Ukraine has fewer people so they are running out of soldiers and recruiting older folks; but Russia has lost plenty more but don't want to tap the huge but politically-sensitive Russian urban population who will not appreciate being drafted.
Other way around - the mobilization age was just lowered, from 27 to 25
Its not a 'ok, and' it's pointing out the team you are cheering for is doing the same thing as the team you vilify
They're invading an innocent country and raping, torturing and butchering innocent families? Nah, both sides aren't the same.
Stay in topic, this thread is about conscription
Yes, and conscription for defense is not the same thing as conscription for invasion and occupation.
Whatever helps you sleep at night
https://www.theonion.com/gays-too-precious-to-risk-in-combat-says-general-1819594658
Wild that this got downvoted. I guess pressganging men into combat is only bad when da ruskies do it?
They don't like to hear that their team is doing the same thing they claim only the other team does