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[–] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 64 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Props to this guy, but why do these people get so much attention?

They just spew constant drivel and complain about women and minorities, I know why they're relevant but still, WHY? HOW?

sadness

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 86 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 41 points 5 months ago (1 children)

time is just selective about targets. back in the 2000s, being gay publicly was being blasted on.Nowadays being gay is less of a problem publicly, however the hate is now towards being trans. their hate is very seasonal.

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I would have been hatecrimed all the time for being trans if i already would have come out in the 2000s, i honestly don't think i would have survived being trans in public 20 years ago. Not to mention that i would probably have been gatekept permanently from transitioning for being lesbian, or that it was impossible in my country back then to get a name change without either bottom surgery or forced sterilization (using cryoconservated sperm to sire a child also meant that your name change was retroactively voided and you were declared a man again back in those days. Oh, and we had forced divorces for married trans people, too). In the US, trans panic defenses were still a thing in these days. You could get away with murdering us when you stated that finding out about our transness after sex freaked you out. But yeah i guess time is being selective for targets and my opression just started happening 5 years ago and nobody bothered us before then. jfc.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

Yeah Gwen Araujo’s case was early 2000’s and plenty of people agreed that she had “raped” the man who killed her at the time.

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago

You could get away with murdering us when you stated that finding out about our transness after sex freaked you out.

The Crying Game and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

[–] milk_thief@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I was gatekept for being autistic for four years and that was not long ago, same fuck ass joke of a Hitler country

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

In the US, trans panic defenses were still a thing in these days.

I have bad news for you.

[–] RION@hexbear.net 39 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The difference is that Blade declared open season on all suckheads which made it good. You can't do that anymore. because of woke

[–] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

"one of the good ones"

[–] Des@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

they all have youtube channels that inexplicably have like millions of subscribers

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 42 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Is it really that inexplicable? Trump got millions of votes. 30% of the vote in France went to a right-wing party. There are a ton of people who think too much diversity is a problem in media. (Thankfully, no one outside of their circles takes them seriously, but still.)

Like, real talk, this whole culture war chud shit infects at least 30% of Anglos. (I'm lowballing here... don't want to know the real number.)

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

i grew up in a state where that is basically the norm and people are quite okay with it... i don't go back to visit but every once in a great long while one of my old friends will send me a bigoted text out of the blue

[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I am deep down sure it is a psyop. Conservative media is just given more prominence. It could be through the algorithm directly, or through them getting better add rates. Probably a bit of everything. Conservatism is good for business. So everyone has a vested intrest in pushing it.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You don't have to go as far as it being a conspiracy. The bourgeois push far-right talking points because fascism is materially beneficial to them. This trickles down from your Fox News and your CNNs to The Based Anti-Woke Crusader and other such social media.

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

Exactly- There is no deep conspiracy. Fascism makes them money - so they are selling it to the people.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The propaganda used in the gaming space is very similar to the propaganda used to agitate people against migrants. The right has recognised that gaming has had a specific type of audience for some time and is going through a sort of audience-change process as it grows. What they identified was that they could agitate among the audience that has already been in gaming for some time by posing those coming into the medium in the same way that migrants are posed, a force for bad that is changing their medium in a negative way that affects them.

EDIT: Expanding on this, the freeze-gamer is essentially the agitated white man angry about the foreigners invading his country and taking his jerbs, except it's mildly changing things in videogames. Couple this with the fact the industry is getting worse due to the monetisation and corporatisation and the explanation for why everything is getting worse ends up being "the immigrants" instead of "the CEOs".

I probably sound partially mad for making this comparison but w/e it makes sense in my head. Most tactics the right uses are modifications of existing tactics.

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

You aren't crazy. A lot of the Alt-Right intelligentsia cut their teeth on Gamergate, and would translate that experience to 2016 and beyond.