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[–] juice702@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nice work IDF. Four alive hostages rescued is good news.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It is good.

I wonder how many other innocent people being murdered justifies saving other innocent people.

Can you kill 100 to rescue 4. What about 1000 or 10000.

The fact is they could have accepted any number of ceasefire deals to release these hostages, but they chose to keep murdering more people and further creating the next generation of Hamas signups.

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The fact is they could have accepted any number of ceasefire deals to release these hostages, but they chose to keep murdering more

And the fact that hamas could have released them all before the operation was even started.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So we agree Hamas and the IDF are terrorists. And you think a genocide is an acceptable response.

[–] rdri@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it matters how you call them. If you want to label a party bad by calling them terrorists - it's your choice.

I know that Israel is able to take care of their own people. Hamas is incapable of that and is willing to kill Palestinians in order to bring any damage to another party. It's understandable that Israel started the ground operation (maybe not how it goes now, but still). It's illogical to say that hamas did the right thing with the October 7 events, already because it was obviously useless for their cause.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You’re just being disingenuous now.

How is anybody to take care of the Palestinian people when they essentially live in an apartheid state. They have been oppressed by the Israeli government you’re defending for decades now.

Go have a look at maps over the decades of how much land has been stolen. Regular bombing etc.

You could read some Finkelstein on the subject, you know the Jewish expert who has researched it most of his life.

Edit: Notice how I said both sides were terrorists and you only want to focus on one side. That’s called bias my friend.

[–] rdri@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago

when they essentially live in an apartheid state.

Didn't prevent them from being able to take care of Palestinians instead of building missiles.

Israeli government you’re defending for decades now.

What

Go have a look at maps over the decades of how much land has been stolen

Yeah, and how exactly hamas changes that?

Notice how I said both sides were terrorists and you only want to focus on one side.

All I see is people focusing on calling Israel a monster.