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[–] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Religion is against science. It teaches that you must have faith unsupported by evidence, which is incompatible with progress and is just an excuse for making up rules in the name of an unseen authority.

Edit: Religion is also vile: whenever they are winning, they try to squash science and its methods. Whenever they are losing, they play the martyr.

[–] Papergeist@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Idk. My dad has always liked going to church. My family is catholic, I don't really engage in any of it anymore. But my dad has always been a proponent of science. His opinion is that religion and science can inform each other.

He believes in evolution. He knows vaccines work. And he certainly is not a trumper. He also likes to tell the story of how the big bang was initially hypothesized by a catholic priest.

[–] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

That priest, Lemaitre, was opposed to mixing science and religion and said that there was no contraddiction between his theory and what the bible says about the origin of the universe. This is a 1984-level cognitive dissonance event imo, and shows that mixing something ever growing like science with something immutable like religious establishment is very difficult especially in one direction.

[–] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is a brilliant example of anecdotal example, which has no statistical value. I'm sure your dad is a great person.

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's a single example that disproves the hypothesis "science and religion must always oppose". Only one example is needed, in the same way that the Riemann hypothesis only needs a single zero off the critical line to prove it's false.

[–] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Lol, no. I'm talking of a general trend of the religious establishment against innovation and understanding.

Edit: Also i never said "science and religion must always oppose". I said religion is against science. The hate is mostly unidirectional as science has mostly just indifference towards religion.

[–] yukijoou@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 months ago

i mean, the main issue is that theologues base their beliefs on the belief that some old texts hold universal truths