If you want to see far-right content and spam, join a far-right server or run your own, rather than trying to shame server owners into doing what you want.

Admins are entitled to decide what they platform and what they don't. On top of that, the user experience of "just block 100 servers of Nazis and incels to get to the content you want to see" is complete dogshit.

This "it should all be user level" is just apologist bullshit.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

It's funny seeing how being able to see and discuss these decisions being the advantage of lemmy and admins and then seeing someone talking about defederation policies being "shaming" lmao. A bit dramatic

[–] Sootius@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Did anybody say admins aren't entitled to block stuff? User just wanted a system to see everything and block what they didn't want.

Fuck off with this aggressive bad-faith shit.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Did anybody say admins aren't entitled to block stuff?

I mean, it’s a user complaining about defederation from known nazi instances. It gives off some big “free speech absolutist (as long as the free speech is hate speech)” vibes.

User just wanted a system to see everything and block what they didn't want.

That system already exists. You can spin up your own instance in like 15 minutes, and have access to the entire unfiltered fediverse. But nobody wants to do that, because nobody actually wants to see the unfiltered fediverse. That shit is basically rawdogging the internet, because it’s full of extremists and pedophiles.

There is only one side who benefits from the “everything unfiltered by default, the user has to individually wade through mountains of slurs, hate, doxxing, and child porn to manually block all of them” option. And it isn’t the user. The only side that benefits is the side that now gets to peddle their BS to a wider audience.

If you genuinely want the fediverse to improve and grow, advocating for unfiltering isn’t the way. That shit will scare off any curious new users faster than any kind of reasonable filtering would. Imagine you make a new account, and your first interactions are blocking a thousand individual instances just so you don’t end up on a federal watch list.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Did anybody say admins aren't entitled to block stuff

His "defederation bad (except pedos)" isn't exactly wet with support for blocking instances for spam and extremism.

User just wanted a system to see everything and block what they didn't want.

That system exists. It's the "run your own server" that I explicitly mentioned. But let's be honest, he doesn't want that system (which again, he already has) for himself, he wants it for everyone else.

It's the same bullshit that "free speech absolutists" push in every single thread about defederation -- admins should be hands off and users should dig through through slurs, racism, homophobia looking for content worth engaging with.

It benefits exactly one group of people but apparently doesn't set off your "bad-faith" radar.