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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 46 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I get people don't read articles, but at least read the automated blurb...

Full paragraph:

Leaked audio from a Miss Universe board meeting recorded one of the international beauty pageant’s co-owners saying that “women from nontraditional backgrounds” — including transgender women — can be included in the competition but “cannot win.” The co-owner recorded in the audio, a trans woman, said her words were “maliciously” edited, leading to them being taken out of context.

Like, it's entirely possible she just meant the judges likely wouldn't award the top prize to a competitor who was trans.

Like, is anyone surprised the type of people who judge beauty pagents are sexist and these things are essentially just ratings of who they want to sleep with?

Is anyone truly thinking these are anything else in 2024?

And a trans co-owner would be a target for something like this for lots of the same reasons.

Take the few minutes and read the article if you want to have an opinion.

Or at least read the bit at the end about why she decided to buy her stake in it:

In August 2023, Jakrajutatip told LGBTQ Nation’s Greg Owen that she was partly inspired to buy the organization after seeing Spanish contestant Ángela Ponce compete in Thailand in 2018. Transgender women have been allowed to compete in the pageant since 2012, but Ponce was the first openly transgender contestant in the pageant’s history.

“I was in the front row,” Jakrajutatip recalled. “She was the first trans woman walking on the stage in the final competition. She came on this stage, she cried. She talked in the video, ‘I did not come here to win. I just wanted to come here to convince everyone that yes, we can do it. There are trans women. And trans women, we are women.’ I cried. I stood up and I applaud her a lot, to the point, like, ‘Oh my goodness, this is it, I’ve been to the full circle moment. And this is my next move. Yes. My next move.’”

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

and these things are essentially just ratings of who they want to sleep with?

It's not that simple. If it were that simple, a trans woman would have already won. After all, trans women were banned from Miss Italy because they have an "unfair advantage"

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Jakrajutatip appears to agree, saying, “We can have real-size beauty, the contestant. Very big size … [But] we’ll have to control the audience [lest] they vote all for the big size.”

I haven't seen the video, so I can't really tell from text what the tone is, but these words are pretty damning, and I'm curious what context they could be in that they would seem ok. It doesn't sound to me like she's saying the likelihood is low, it sounds like she's saying "if you don't fit our definition, we don't want you to win."