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[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 61 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Don’t use Spotify. Use Tidal, Apple Music, or just pirate and support authors other ways.

[–] JohnSmith 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I switched to Tidal a few weeks ago, primarily because of lossless streaming, but also fuck Spotify for your price hikes. Not going back.

[–] CodingCarpenter@lemm.ee 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

How's the artist selection? I find a lot of stuff on Spotify that is a bit niche and I wondering if they have it. I tried searching the catalog which they say you can do but not before you sign up for their free trial which I'm not willing to

[–] JohnSmith 5 points 6 months ago

So far I’ve found everything I looked for, and a few new ones too. Their app features for lyrics and other songs you might like work great. Admittedly, I’m an old metal head who loves singing to a song at the top of the voice, out of tune of course, so I might not be skirting the kinds of niches you like.

[–] PhatInferno@midwest.social 3 points 6 months ago

I find there are a few niche artists/songs that arnt on tidal, but it still had a majority as well as some new options of the same genre

Imo spotify had way better playlists (a lot of specific user created ones are great) but u can just transfer the playlist to tidal with a site

I was using tidal and spotify for a bit, as tidal works with my dj software, but they just added a new pay teir for using it for those softwares :/

Overall i still used spotify more than tidal but i didn't have a bad time on tidal

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I did the same. Paying $11 a month and getting lossless has been a big plus. There were a few songs that were unavailable from my liked songs when moving to Tidal but I also had noticed several songs on my Spotify were unavailable as well too.

My only gripe so far is the Android app drains my battery more than Spotify did, even in the lowest streaming quality.

[–] notsofunnycomment@mander.xyz 15 points 6 months ago

What happens at the y-axis is pure magic.

[–] jonasw@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Can also recommend Qobuz which allegedly pays even more than tidal. And it also has real losless audio, instead of whatever Tidal is doing.

And you can even buy FLAC files from them, without DRM. Or use tools which you can find on the internet, where you can download the flac files 'for free' (you still need a subscription).

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

No wonder deezer lacks most of my beloved artists.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Or, continue to use Spotify but use xManager on android and spicetify on pc. This will give you the premium experience (and more!) without paying a single penny.

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I gave xManager a go, and while it doesn't have ads interrupting your listening, it does still have all the Spotify pop up ads trying to get you to upgrade to premium. It's fine when listening, but selecting what you're listening to is still irritating.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 months ago

that's strange, I've never had that

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My premium Spotify account has resulted in me buying tickets and merch from artists I had never heard of. What's wrong with that?

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

how do you need premium for that

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because if I had to listen to ads I wouldn't use it.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

with xManager or spicetify you don't have to listen to any ads either

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, those days are generally behind me. I want something that always works and I don't mind paying for a functioning product. I don't think comparing an actual service with ways of essentially stealing that service is a fair comparison, but I appreciate what you're saying.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

are you implying these apps don't always work? because I've had little issues with them in the past few years (except that some extensions might stop working but those are just extras so 🤷)

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think I'm just saying that it's okay to pay for a service when it gives you what you pay for. And if you don't want to, that's fine, and for much of my life I did that. I haven't used either of the services you mentioned, but I think it's safe to say setting them up is not as streamlined as just setting up a normal Spotify account would be. And beyond that, as Spotify pushes updates, these services presumably not to respond to those updates, but again, I don't know, haven't used them.

I also think it's a bit beyond the discussion, and like I said, not a fair comparison. Tidal v. Spotify v. Apple Music are, I think, better discussions to have.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think it's safe to say setting them up is not as streamlined as just setting up a normal Spotify account would be.

You just download and install a modified version of the Spotify app and then log in with the same account 🤷

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yep after first releases and concerts, the only people benefitting from the music are the distributors who deserve nothing for the effort the artist put in.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The distributors are the only people doing any work and providing a service after the artist walks out of the recording studio.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They are not the talent providing the work. They are skimming off talent. They are riding on someone else’s talent. They are the very definition of parasites. They would have no job if there were no talent. Meanwhile the talent can find other ways to sell their work.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago

I'm loving tidal. Been a few months now.
I'm finding so much more awesome music now. Spotify seemed to get stuck in suggestions where I went "yeh, I guess that's kinda similar, but that's not actually what I like about those artists".

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 2 points 6 months ago

Deezer exists.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wait, so we all hate, or should hate Spotify for the low support for artists, but now that I think about it, there is nothing stopping artists from putting their work in the other platforms as well, are they becoming more rich because of it and we just should go with whichever offers the best service for us?

Don't be harsh on me, I am not defending Spotify at all, just a dumb realization while seeing this graph 😆

[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I have no idea on the numbers, but given just how huge Spotify is compared to the others, I wonder if record labels just don't see the worth in additionally posting to the other non major platforms like Tidal. Sure it pays ~3x more but it likely has ~50x less users.

Edit: I just wanted tildes before my numbers, I put a backslash before them to cancel them out as formatting codes, but now it just renders as <sub>. If anyone can tell me how I should fix this please tell me