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[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm not keen on the philosophy of accelerationism but america is so chewed up with essentially two party's both fucking terrible and with a limited chance of any other party ever getting in that I can only imagine the path to change in america would be a destructive one. Its lovely to think that maybe the masses would mobiles and democratically bring in a alternative party, truly lovely.

From Europe its sadly easy to think this but I do feel for my american comrades, solidarity.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The quickest way to quell accelerationist thoughts is for the party in question to actually do better.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

But how is that possible without all the donations and super pacs? it's not possible it can't be done!

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the problem is, some people aren't liberal and would like for leftist parties to have a fighting chance. and the political system in america built on money and generation has made for a two party system, a two party system that can not be democratically removed.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If it's the case that people want a moderate, then there should be no concern when the leftists don't turn out, right?

That's what is always so confusing to me is that Democrats both act like they need progressive support and then crap on them the entire time. They can't have it both ways.

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago

like Labour in the UK, which has had a rush of Tory migrating over to Labour. they're all the same really, don't care to make good with fridge leftist voters yet expect a form of loyalty just because their more left than the other one.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m not keen on the philosophy of accelerationism but

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You need a revolutionary movement in the US pugs, and you have the ego to do it!

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nah, I actually understand what goes into building a revolution. That automatically disqualifies me from any revolution under the timescale being proposed here.

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you understand the leading events to a revolution?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh, yes, typically it involves literal decades of building the infrastructure to execute such a thing.

The spark doesn't matter if you haven't even prepared the kindling.

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And you know america is implicit in the suffering in many third world countries? Decrying "communism" installing "democracy" by force.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Okay, how does that relate to anything I just said?

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It relates. But also a general curiosity on my end.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I recommend you as tribute to the front line then. You want to burn it down? Fine, get in the front line and take it in. The rest of us have families and responsibilities and would prefer to put in the work to fix things instead of virtue signaling online about the "glorious revolution".

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Biden said nothing would fundamentally change if he was elected in 2020 and look where it's gotten us. Him and Trump round two. Nothing is going to change unless we make a change and people like you are making it so that doesn't happen.

And before you fucks say j"ust vote for Trump you tanky" I voted for Biden in 2020 and I will probably vote for him in 2024, but since I'm in California, my vote for presidency doesn't matter.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

You either are clueless or you're lying. We've spelled out countless times on this site the policies that have been implemented since his administration took office.

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

This is regarding the gradual but steady decrease in dignity for the working class, and the limited democracy and thus method to vote in policies that could benefit the working class.

I'm European and will be in my own fight (hopefully a democratic one)