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[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Israel has zero expeditionary capability, that is not how military conflict works.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

They just think that magically the countries will somehow share a border and then mighty isnotreal will win.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think they may be able to reach Spain with transport planes (suppose these are not shot down because it's impolite) and drop a brigade or two.

But considering how incompetent their army has shown itself to be (basically like Russia or Ukraine in the beginning of their war), I'm not sure that'd be very scary.

In any case there's one country in the EU which has a competent military that participates in various kinds of violent shit kinda often, thus with institutional experience. That's France.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Spain has a far, far larger mobile military strength than Israel. Like it's not even comparable. Israel has zero operational landing craft as far as I know. Spain has a carrier group. The degree of military capability flex that is operating even a single carrier group is insane, I wouldn't discount Spain as being basically demilitarized lol. Only 10 countries in the world posses a carrier capable of fielding fixed wing aircraft and it's dubious how quickly Russia could get theirs running, it is currently undergoing repairs.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

Yes, let's also assume that Spain pretends to not have any navy.

It's a joke.

I know Israel is not a self-sufficient Spain or France or UK level nation militarily. The whole idea that it is even comparable is ridiculous, but comes up because of it being a "facade of the West", so to say.

Also opportunities for defense-related corruption are just amazing, when a certain allied state far away receives such amounts of aid not just in money or hardware, but in various common projects, with that not conditioned by having real threats (which would raise scrutiny). Everything that makes tracing funds hard is lucrative.

That's where Israel's real power is too - its corruption-based ties are very expansive and far-reaching. It also has very strong relations with other such states and organizations. Like Russia, Turkey, Azerbaijan. Vatican, by the way.