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"What's happening in Gaza is not genocide. We reject that," Biden said at a Jewish American Heritage Month event at the White House.

I can't tell if he's pandering or trying to lose the election

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[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Where are the Biden boyfriends that call everyone that criticizes biden a Trump supporter? I said multiple times on lemmy that a lot of people go above and beyond to support this horrible person who repeatedly mentioned his fantasies for an israeli state and serving it since he was a kid.

Trump is worse but that doesn't mean you can't criticize this piece of shit.

And the worst thing is I live far away from the US and still get called Trump supporter for calling this sicko a sicko.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Trump is worse but that doesn’t mean you can’t criticize this piece of shit.

Trump says the quiet parts out loud. That's what ultimately makes him "worse". While Biden's handlers give him the PC

Um, Actually its not a real genocide because it didn't occur in the genocide region of Auschwitz,

Trump's out there saying

Israel is killing all the terrorists and that's good aktuly and we should be more like them.

But get down to the policies at hand and there's no daylight between them.

So much of this election boils down to liberals being forced to face the nightmarish specter of modern American policy even from within their blue state enclaves. With Biden, they can pretend its all being done for good reasons and with a respectable veneer of Rules Based Internationalism. With Trump, they're forced to watch a guy fuck the rest of the planet with the lights on, while his backers whoop and cheer and siege hail on national television.

But it boils down to optics. Whether we're gearing up to bomb Iran, whether we're buy Xinjiang textiles with one hand while wagging a finger at Beijing with the other, whether we're giving Exxon subsidies to "research hydrogen alternatives" or just cutting them blank checks to drill baby drill, whether we're holding kids in cages on the border under a rogue Republican governor or a fascist Republican president, its all the same fucking policies.

[–] WolfLink@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There’s a lot of people who think it’s a good idea to not vote in the hope that Biden will lose and that will teach the DNC a lesson.

[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That is a bit shortened. We demand Biden to stop supporting this genocide and start upholding international and US law in order to get a vote.

Saying you will vote for him no matter what just encourages the DNC to do whatever they want. Democrats fear the pro Israel lobby as that lobby will follow through on not giving them their votes, if they dont play their ball. If other people would realize their power by following through if the Dems refuse to listen, they could force the Dems to actually be a party of human rights and basic dignity and justice for all.

[–] WolfLink@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The thing is, we either get 2 more years of Biden, or 2 more years of Trump. Besides this one issue I don’t think Biden has been that bad. Trump and more broadly republicans have publicly declared their intent to move the country towards a dictatorship.

In the election 2 years from now, if Biden is the president, we will have an interesting primary to see who is the next DNC candidate. If Trump is president, I’m not sure the country will be in a state where that’s possible (not to mention that if it doesn’t get that bad, the DNC will likely put Biden on the ballot regardless of what happens this year).

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The thing is, we either get 2 more years of Biden, or 2 more years of Trump.

And

Trump and more broadly republicans have publicly declared their intent to move the country towards a dictatorship.

Are incongruent.

Also, how long do you think presidential terms are? Why do you think we're going to have another presidential election in 2 years?

You do realize that the election is this year right? Even further, if Biden wins this year, he couldn't run for a third term if he (and the DNC) wanted.

Most importantly: if Trump wins this year, it won't just be "2 more years of Trump." If we listen to what Trump and the GOP has been telling us they will do (and we fucking should, read "Project 2025”), it won't even be only 4 more years of Trump. It will mark the beginning of the Trump Family Dynasty and his name will rule the country for generations. You want Emperor Barron? I wish this was fucking hyperbole.

They're not "moving toward a dictatorship," this is it. This election will decide if democracy continues to exist in the US at all.

He'll also be far far worse than Biden/Democrats regarding the one topic these people seem to suddenly give a shit about.

It's shameful. To use the plight of the Palestinian people as a political cudgel. If these people gave a shit about this genocide, they would recognize that allowing Trump into the White House again will make it sooooooo much worse. Don't think "it can't get worse," because we're about to see it if he wins.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 months ago

Understandable but some people forget that countries other than US exist. Like I can't vote there lol. But I do understand your point. I'm just a bit irritated at lemmy users assuming everyone as an American.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 months ago

that call everyone that criticizes biden a Trump supporter

Disingenuous as fuck.