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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 20 points 5 months ago (4 children)

GNU+Linux user just wonders whether medical technology is bad for humanity's long term survival because hereditary diseases can be survived and spread, but wouldn't want anyone to misunderstand.

It's nice to know we have looped back to the point in history where we casually consider which people should have agency over their reproductive rights. Oh wait, no it's not nice at all, but somehow still totally acceptable and commonplace.

[–] earthquake@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You should watch the movie Idiocraty.

Grim stuff in that thread.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, im a habitual contrarian about this movie (good for that poster that they commit to not do an idiocracy and use tools that helps people, for example searching for the name of a movie), but reminder that that movie is basically utopian as it takes place 500 years in the future, and the American way of life is still going strong, and the problem of the food crisis is basically solved in a week.

[–] earthquake@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I think that the movie is just a shallow criticism of Bush-era conservativism and 90s "trash TV" (that was already in decline by this time). Interrogating the implications of its scifi premise feels like not meeting the movie where it's at, which is an optimism (alien to me) that the USA is fundamentally sound and only needs a nominally reasonable Joe American to keep the levers of power away from Those Guys.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 5 months ago

It is. It isn't that deep I know, just wanted to point out a small thing which the people who hyperfocus on the semi-eugenics argument seem to always miss in the 'cbt (link SFW, some links on that page are not however) is funny' movie.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also someone bringing up "population collapse" which is a recent(?) right-wing/techbro trope. Everything about everyone expressing worries about "sub replacement birth rates" screams "we must prevent people with wombs from making their own decisions about whether to have kids".

[–] slopjockey@awful.systems 7 points 5 months ago

A good portion of online rw politics is just a desparate cry for pussy blanketed with callous dogma.

[–] maol@awful.systems 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't know anything about evolution or genetics, and I'm pretty sure this guy doesn't either. Why would everyone become disabled because more disabled people survive and pass on their genes to their kids? We don't stone gingers to death and yet we are not all having red-headed kids.

The repeated use of the word "weak" (as opposed to "sick" or "disabled") seems revealing.

[–] earthquake@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago

I can't say for sure that he thinks of genetics as bloodlines, and is concerned about its purity, but I can have my suspicions.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

extremely weird shit across the board from that user. account claims to be "18M" and running "manjaro and mint", and then has a shell on sdf.org? along with the posts, "Yes, I’d prefer not being resuscitated. If I am finally dead, let it stay that way" just from that thread (and a number of other choice entries elsewhere in their history)

like come the fuck on, can it be more sus

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How is having an SDF account weird? Because it's for olds? Or they're hardcore BSDers?

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

just fishy in aggregate. I wouldn't say so much "because for olds" as "it's far more likely for old(er)s to want something like that". combine that with the wide array of other posts the account has engaged with, and the bio just wholly looks like bullshit to me

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 5 months ago

I mean I did fuck around on some public VAX hosted things and such in the early 00s, so it's not impossible for this to be a true thing, but yeah. just smells off

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I agree that it's fishy in this instance, but dig around in the "smol web" subculture (gemini protocol, etc) and you'll find plenty of youngs who live in shells... cf. tilde.town

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 5 months ago

Oh yeah, I know about those :) it was more specifically about this exact instance indeed