this post was submitted on 15 May 2024
268 points (67.2% liked)

Political Memes

5487 readers
3329 users here now

Welcome to politcal memes!

These are our rules:

Be civilJokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.

No misinformationDon’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.

Posts should be memesRandom pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.

No bots, spam or self-promotionFollow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

patronizing is exactly the right word holy shit :(

i am not a single issue voter and i’m highly critical of those telling me to utterly ditch the blue vote. but i am very uncomfortable with this portrayal of the pro-Palestine movement and i hope you, the reader, are too

the artist of this should feel some level of shame i think

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You're reading too much into it. The cartoon isn't about those who support Palestine. It's about those who make it their only issue. Ending up only hurting themselves and everyone else.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Under a cartoon representation of a quite standard-looking Palestine supporting protester.

“The cartoon isn’t about those who support Palestine.”

What textual or external evidence do you have for this? Genuinely what could I be missing here lmao? Open to correction but this sounds like you are gaslighting urself?

Edit to be very specific: The comic depicts what might be called a “generic” protester. And then puts words in their mouth that are not often heard: “I’m busy.” Not a popular slogan or anything.

There’s one protester, one speech bubble. That’s 100% of the protesters on the page, where the uncommon speech is inserted into the generic. Hence my interperetation that the artist is representing all pro-Palestine protesters here as single issue obstructionist bad actors, which is an obvious non-truth

It’s kind of a visual strawman, in other words.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's a political cartoon. They're visual generally not textual. So there's at least your first problem of many. Though I think your problems are all of your own design. That you think that represents all Palestinian supporters says more about you than it does about Palestinian supporters.

But let's analyze your own claims using your own required proofs. Where does the textually say anything you've implied?

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Hi there, just wanted to mention that visual texts are quite prevalent in rhetorical media (e: of which political cartoons are very much a part despite your strange assertion.) Thank you for considering this perspective. I would appreciate it if you could provide evidence from the visual text or another source to support any alternative interpretations.

An example of my perception: in a political cartoon, a white guy wearing a red MAGA hat might be perceived as representing Trump supporters. There would need to be considerable evidence for me to believe that such a symbol represented a specific subset of that group, of such a kind at least that I do not see here.

I may not engage in further answers to your questions until I receive a response addressing the evidence provided. Thank you for understanding, and I value your perspective.

Edit: I do see that you blocked me. So, that’s excellent :/

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Don't bother, that dude is... A silly goose

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)