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"We've almost got some of their telecommunications cracked; the front end even runs on a laptop!" The Mac that sunk a thousand ships could have been merely clunky product placement, not a bafflingly stupid tech-on-film moment.

"Senator Amidala is in a coma. Even if she recovers, she will never be the same and may not live long." But no.... George had to have his god-damned funeral scene, even if it demanded Simone Biles levels of mental gymnastics to save Carrie Fisher's most emotionally resonant moment from ROTJ, as well as one of the more intriguing OT lore dumps.

Bonus points if a scene was scripted or filmed and got cut.

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[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Disagree, the "another layer" thing would be extremely lazy writing.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Depends on how it's done. What little EU there was for The Matrix does have it as a thing that a small percentage of redpills go crazy, thinking that Zion is just another layer of the matrix. The Oracle being another part of the system of control would also be on brand for the machines and would work well with the Architect's bit about how if he's the father of the matrix then she is its mother.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I kinda just assumed that was how it was meant to be interpreted and the other stuff was just crappy writing. The mention that Zion had been destroyed multiple times kinda implied it was just another matrix.

[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Unless... there is always another layer because different people require different illusions... and therefore there is no escape from the Matrix...

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Disagree, the "another layer" thing would be extremely lazy writing.

And "Neo has actual superpowers for no reason" wasn't?

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean "no reason"? IMO it was executed and explained well.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Neo having super powers in the matrix was explained. Not how he had them in "real life".

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 6 months ago

It was because he's connected to the machine network and he has some limited interfacing with them. He could trigger their destroy sequence or whatever.

At least that's what I remember, haven't seen it for a while.