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What is Neurodivergence?

It's ADHD, Autism, OCD, schizophrenia, anxiety, depression, bi-polar, aspd, etc etc etc etc

“neurologically atypical patterns of thought or behavior”

So, it’s very broad, if you feel like it describes you then it does as far as we're concerned


Rules

1.) ableist language=post or comment will probably get removed (enforced case by case, some comments will be removed and restored due to complex situations). repeated use of ableist language=banned from comm and possibly site depending on severity. properly tagged posts with CW can use them for the purposes of discussing them

2.) always assume good faith when dealing with a fellow nd comrade especially due to lack of social awareness being a common symptom of neurodivergence

2.5) right to disengage is rigidly enforced. violations will get you purged from the comm. see rule 3 for explanation on appeals

3.) no talking over nd comrades about things you haven't personally experienced as a neurotypical chapo, you will be purged. If you're ND it is absolutely fine to give your own perspective if it conflicts with another's, but do so with empathy and the intention to learn about each other, not prove who's experience is valid. Appeal process is like appealing in user union but you dm the nd comrade you talked over with your appeal (so make it a good one) and then dm the mods with screenshot proof that you resolved it. fake screenies will get you banned from the site, we will confirm with the comrade you dm'd.

3.5) everyone has their own lived experiences, and to invalidate them is to post cringe. comments will be removed on a case by case basis depending on determined level of awareness and faith

4.) Interest Policing will not be tolerated in any form. Support your comrades in their joy!

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RULES NOTE: For this community more than most we understand that the clarity and understandability of these rules is very important for allowing folks to feel comfortable, to that end please don't be afraid to be outspoken about amendments and addendums to these rules, as well as any we may have missed

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Listen up fuckers, cause none of this applies to anybody on this site specifically and I'm just bitching.

I don't have to accomodate neurotypicals who say horseshit like "I don't want to keep a tone tag reference sheet open to have a conversation though", that has officially stopped being a me problem. Similarly, if your response to that is "Communication is a two-way street, so a communication issue is often also a two-way thing", that doesn't sound like I have to accomodate YOUR misunderstanding of MY words, however you have decided to read them. If you decide even in spite of tone tags that I'm being an asshole, frankly get fucked and go decide someone else's emotional state for them. Hell, even if I didn't use tone tags, I shouldn't be required to fucking defend myself from your literal spurious accusations. I've had enough of your disingenuous assertions.

I'm pretty understanding about misreads, just ask me what I meant instead of fucking assuming the absolute worst in people all the time, and also do not go around expecting neurodiverse people to accomodate whatever YOU read into their words all the time. Your fucking problem. It's not their job to sort out your preconceptions and accept whatever emotions you decide for them, which was the point of what I was saying anyway. Ableist shit.

This type of thing has become pretty traumatic over the course of like ten of exactly this type of bullshit, so I don't have the will to cause problems and fight about it but I'm also not willing to constantly cede ground for free to neurotypical expectations.

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[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is because many people are illiterate. Literacy is more than just understanding all the words in front of you. Understand the intended audience is part of it. Understanding tone from what is written is another. Understanding the implicit meaning is another. Understanding the subject of the material another. Understanding the entirety of it and how each part works together to convey the message is another.

People are seriously lacking ALL OR MOST of these skills. It is a literacy problem. When you see someone respond to a tweet putting "some people" on blast as if it pertained to them personally, they are illiterate. They lack reading comprehension skills. They did not understand the subject and intended audience of the tweet. It may be due to some cognitive or learning issue but usually it is not. They simply cannot read well and were never really taught well. I find that this is largely Americans who have this issue.

It is not an online thing. This is a problem in general.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's kind of a selfown when they respond to a nonspecifically-targeted statement as if it's targeted at them, like oh so you're one of the neurotypical bastards I'm talking about here?? I wish it was burger specific but this person lists their timezone as GMT+1, lmao.

I hate that this is a general problem, I thought it was a terminally-online, touch-grass thing...

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It is frustrating. How about the words, "many people". It doesn't mean "most people" or even "the majority of of people". "Many" isn't a reference to a percentage of people at all. 10 people can be "many" or 1 billion people. How many times I have typed, "many Americans" or "many men" or something like that and gotten back "you can't make a blanket statement like that it's not ALL of them" is so goddamn consistent. Some would argue this is a communication issue and I firmly disagree because I think the majority of people underwstand this but it's always a small subset who don't. This is a literacy problem. At some point the goddamn reader needs to have some basic literacy skills and understand what the words mean and how they work with each other.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's always in defense of privileged groups when they reply like that too, lol. I feel that sometimes people deliberately misread statements like that so they can air out their NOTALLMEN shit too.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

Well, it's always the group they belong to, whether privileged or not. They'll do it on noncontroversial statements, too, and ones that aren't even negative. Which gives up the game that it's not something being done defensively. It is truly a literacy issue.