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[–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oracle does a have a point though, they did release ZFS and BTRFS as open source projects. Granted, RH has done the same with other software packages, but not something as important as a FS. ZFS was a finished product, BTRFS not so much, but still, these 2 are greatly valued in the open source community.

Not siding with Oracle, I don't like them one bit, but facts are facts 🤷.

[–] emhl@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oracle's implementation of ZFS is Proprietary software. The original version was developed with an open source model By Sun microsystems, which was bought by oracle. And Oracle contributing to the Linux Kernel with BTRFS isn't that ground breaking

[–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Still, no one else did it... I mean, after RaiserFS, was there another FS released under GPL that was a viable alternative to EXT*?

[–] exu@feditown.com 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago
  • 4% perf increase
  • occasionally losing your data
  • can't shrink. ever.

XFS is such a non-starter.

[–] addie 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

BTRFS, which works great as long as you accept its limitations.

[–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Correct... don't like that, but yes, that is correct.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

which works great as long as you accept its limitations.

This can be said of cannibalism, fascism and the GoP also. Just, some have massive limitations you'll be accepting, but the statement is still true.

[–] emhl@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, openZFS is quite good, but it's license is incompatible with the GPL

[–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's why is not in the kernel, it's a separate package.

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

RedHat are key contributors to a stack of open source projects aside from the kernel itself. For example they are one of the lead contributors to QEMU, far ahead of Oracle.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

RedHat were key contributors

And now they're barely pedestrians.

[–] yianiris@kafeneio.social 1 points 7 months ago

@corsicanguppy @stsquad

They were always IBM's front for open/free code and the undermine of linux. Grew economically more than any Op.Fr. project because of IBM's consulting and training subcontracts passed under the table. Eventually they were absorbed by their mothership.

[–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know, but let's face it, QEMU is not something you absolutely need to run an OS, like an FS for example.

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Linux supports loads of filesystems. ext4 works well for most people and is considerably easier to use without jumping hoops for Oracle's deliberately misaligned license for ZFS.

[–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that BTRFS was released under GPL to restore the balance (as well as have the FS maintained and developed for free).

My point was, Oracle has contributed as well as RH. They offered to make RHEL instead of RH, RH do repacks. IBM is just greedy and we have seen where these sorts of things lead, to a dead company.

[–] rurban@toot.io 1 points 1 year ago

@0x4E4F @Ascend910 also dTrace, the proper instrumentation system