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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 114 points 6 months ago (4 children)

As a comedian you either die funny or live long enough to become a reactionary shit bag.

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 63 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

I don't think he was ever funny. Larry David may have been funny, and Seinfeld was fortunate enough to be involved with the show, but Jerry himself has always been a poor comedian and a tool.

[–] odelik@lemmy.today 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

"The show was great, hilarious even, until Jerry opened his mouth and said something." - Me imitating Seinfeld

But seriously. I loved a few of the kooky characters, and would always stop channel surfing on a Kramer scene. But Jerry would always say something dumb and I'd move on.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, RIP Cosmo Kramer Michael Richards' career & reputation ever since his incident with the heckler

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Well deserved.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] fuzz00713@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

It was the supporting cast that even gave that movie a chance at being funny. Mathew Broderick, Rip Torn and Patrick Warburton did a lot of heavy lifting.

[–] TwoCubed@feddit.de 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely. He always came off as an arrogant prick and none of his shit was funny to me. But I might have missed many a point because I'm not from the USA.

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

I never liked the show because of him specifically. It's my understanding that they're all supposed to be bad people, but this is the same case with Always Sunny and I find the gang to be very likable. I didn't at first, but they grew on me once I realized they were supposed to be degenerates and sociopaths. But with Seinfeld I have never been able to get over the hump.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, there are a few memorable episodes but most of it was pretty lame IMO.

The only reason I watched Seinfeld is it was what was on

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

The episode where George and Jerry pretend to be the names printed on a limo driver's placard in order to get a free ride from the airport and end up getting driven to a white supremacist rally was the peak of the show, but after watching Curb Your Enthusiasm it's pretty obvious whose sense of humor produced that one.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

The show was hilarious.

It's just that Seinfeld was the least funny cast member in literally every episode.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

He was the least funny and interesting character in “Seinfeld”, too. Even most side characters like George’s parents added more than him.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Seinfeld was hilarious back in his day.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Seinfeld would have had to die in adolescence for that do happen.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

What does reactionary mean other than just being an insult?

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It means he lacks the ability to reinvent his comedy to fit the times. Instead he just complains.

We all need to continue to reinvent ourselves over time. Things change. We need to retool for the times ahead. Reality is Seinfeld doesn’t need to because he already made his money.

So instead of him getting back on the horse he just sits back and complains like the out of touch old turd that he is. He sucks but just can’t accept it or admit it. It’s easier to whine.

He is a has-been and never will be again.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I agree he's not funny, but that's not really how most people use reactionary

[–] sparkle@lemm.ee 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

"Reactionary" means regressive conservative/anti-progressive. It originates from, as much political terminology on the regressive vs. progressive divide does (including the terms "left", "right", and "conservative" themselves), the French revolution, where people who favored opposing the revolution (i.e. reacting to the revolution) were called "réactionnaires" in French.

Here's the first known usage of the word in English, from a 1799 English translation of Lazare Carnot's letter on the Conspiracy of the 18th Fructador.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

Interesting, but I often see it used not for people who oppose any form of change, but for people who oppose a specific change. And it's intended to be more slanderous than conservative.

[–] geissi@feddit.de 7 points 6 months ago

Reactionary can be seen as a more extreme version of conservatism.
Conservatives want to keep things as they are and oppose change.
Reactionaries want to turn back to some previous, supposedly better state.