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The whole internet loves Kagi, a lovely paid search engine that can find things! 5 seconds later We regret to inform you the CEO is an unhinged narcissist who will harangue you in email (hackers.town)
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[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 24 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Seeing how successful Kagi is when run by someone who actively sets their own money on fire for no reason almost makes me want to try and start a search engine company. I mean I couldn't do it any worse right? And there is a market for it.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Kagi basically admits they're just piggybacking off of Google, Bing, et al, so getting into the space shouldn't be a serious PITA.

[–] self@awful.systems 18 points 7 months ago (4 children)

yall really are making me want to massively overextend and start that federated search engine project based on human-driven indexing and whichever APIs each instance wants to query and cache. yes, like a fancy web directory

maybe this is a good idea for a FreeAssembly project once Philthy’s in a good state? it’s a better idea than starting a shitty Wikipedia clone at least

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 7 months ago

(feels quite fucky to type the following without coming across as a naysayer; not quite the intended meaning, but.. I guess you'll see)

it'd probably be cool if this could exist, but also there's a couple of extremely hard problems in going for it, along with a couple of (to my current knowledge) entirely unsolved ones

one of the presently-unsolved things I know of is that we don't yet have anything like scalable performant homomorphic encryption so there's no way to do fully-private query operations on a dataset, which thus gives way to the operator snooping space combined with user privacy angles. there are some technical solutions to some aspects of this, and a number of social things that would apply too

might be interesting either way

definitely a hell of a big project.

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Personally: I'd love to, but I have a conflicting non-compete so I'd definitely have to quit my job first and I'm not ready for that level of adulting. The good news is that if I ever do quit I'll have a lot of relevant skills

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

maybe this is something you're looking for idk https://github.com/StractOrg/stract they have their own index and their own crawler

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Omg so much tech jargon in this comment

[–] self@awful.systems 10 points 7 months ago

welcome to TechTakes!

no, welcome wasn’t the right word now was it

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's very similar to the feeling you get when you read a very middle-quality novel, innit?

[–] AcausalRobotGod@awful.systems 11 points 7 months ago

I resemble that remark

[–] FractalsInfinite@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

Well the article says they have 16 (half are only half time) employees working between at least 5 projects, so it looks pretty possible, and most of the smaller engines are made by one or two people