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[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

every single previous American president would have already stopped israeli by now

Sounds legit.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fine, every single president except Trump. Happy now?

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No. I don't have any obvious counter-evidence I'm aware of, but I don't bare the burden of proof. You need to show evidence that every single other president would have done as you say. It's a very big claim that requires a lot of evidence, and frankly I don't believe it's true.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe not every president since as you say that requires a lot of evidence and is likely unprovable, but I firmly believe that the majority would've stopped Israel by now. I mean, hell, even objectively horrible people like George Bush and Regan did it. Hell, even Biden did it in 2021. What I want to say is: Biden letting Israel rampage like this is the exception, not the norm. For evidence, I think the fact that Israel has needed to exercise at least a modicum of restraint and not commit actual genocide until now is enough.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I firmly believe

Without evidence

not commit actual genocide

Israel is currently in the process of committing an actual genocide. I think that's why the Biden administration is holding an investigation; because if they can publish a finding that Israel is using American weapons they can then withhold aid without anyone being able to make legal trouble. Because of the way our treaties work, Biden is compelled to supply aid to Israel until he's legally forbidden from doing so. In the meantime, there's reports that he's begun using back-door beurocratic BS to slow aid down as much as he's legally able to.

Now maybe all of that is baseless rumors being spread by braindead Biden cheerleaders, but it's also entirely possible that it's true. You have no basis for your assertion that Biden is even doing worse than average, so stop trying to act like it's an established fact.

TLDR: your argument is uncogent.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Now maybe all of that is baseless rumors being spread by braindead Biden cheerleaders

Yes. Israel has been obviously breaking international law, using American weapons (including the infamous 2000 pound bombs) for a while now. Many individual Israeli actions have been called warcrimes by various NGOs, up to and including the UN. If he wanted to do anything he'd have done it already. He also wouldn't match bold-faced Israeli propaganda (like the 40 dead babies debacle).

You have no basis for your assertion that Biden is even doing worse than average, so stop trying to act like it’s an established fact.

I do: Biden is one of the few US presidents who hasn't stopped Israel when they did something this out of proportion. Again, this man is doing worse than Reagan and Bush. Do you understand how low the bar he's failing to meet is?