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It is expected to be 2-3 months before Threads is ready to federate (see link). There will, inevitably, be five different reactions from instances:

  1. Federate regardless (mostly the toxic instances everyone else blocks)

  2. Federate with extreme caution and good preparation (some instances with the resources and remit from their users)

  3. Defederate (wait and see)

  4. Defederate with the intention of staying defederated

  5. Defederate with all Threads-federated instances too

It's all good. Instances should do what works best for them and people should make their home with the instances that have the moderation policies they want.

In the interests of instances which choose options 2 or 3, perhaps we could start to build a pre-emptive block list for known bad actors on Threads?

I'm not on it but I think a fair few people are? And there are various commentaries which name some of the obvious offenders.

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[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It gives this power to anyone willing to shell out a fiver a month.

[–] Madbrad200@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

...and the know how to set up and maintain a server, which is beyond most

[–] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 6 points 1 year ago

There are hosting companies that offer managed mastodon instances. I assume they might offer managed lemmy instances as well in the future.

[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

You can also use third party providers like these guys who can set up an activity pub centric website for you.

That looks like a pretty good starting point for people who have just a moderate understanding of servers and websites

[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that's something I've not seen discussed here much. I get that people want control, but getting started with an ActivityPub centric site (like kbin) is now cheaper than ever. Get your own cheap hosting on a VPS and handle some traffic.

People can even create their own instances just to federate with everyone and absorb their content if they're worried about the rules and regulations or "x server not connecting with y"

Overall I think it's a pretty good system compared to a single silo like Reddit

[–] Obez@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except when people choose option 5 from this list and defederate you because of who you are federated with.

[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That's one of the most glaring issues I see with activityPub. The Reddit style, I'm going to block you because your follow XYZ sub mentally.

I've got no solution for it besides hiding which places federate with who, but by looking at the content you'd be about to make an educated guess anyway

[–] TheRealBob@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah dude people will absolutely defederate your ass if you federate with bigots or whatever. No one is owed federation or a platform of any kind.

Federation is not a right, it’s a privilege.

[–] Xanvial@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Until your instance defederated from big instances

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, if you yourself are your greatest enemy... Not much can be done there.