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Fact is, the Lemmy ecosystem needs money to handle the growing server reqirements as more people migrate as well as the development cost of new features (I know Lemmy is OSS but the devs should still get some compensation for their effort).

Seeing how much some reddit users love awards so much that they cant stop giving money to Reddit to award posts protesting the api change, this could be a great way for users to voluntary support the ecosystem. It can be easily ignored by users not caring about them (clients could even add an option to hide them), but users liking the feature can go wild and this time the money goes to volunteers keeping this alive instead of greedy admins, power mods and investors.

Though there would be some big organization questions attached: attached:

  • Which server handles the payment? A centralized one, the one where the post was made or the one where the user giving the award account was created.
  • How will the money be shared between the Devs and the individual instances in a way that is fair but cant be abused easily.
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[–] lesnake@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Looks like donations work surprisingly well with the current userbase and current expenses. The projects on opencolective are doing quite well.

Lets just hope this stays that way for a while.

I doubt its sustainable that way forever though if more reddit users and subreddits migrate. So if donations arent enough anymore in the future, I hope they choose something like awards instead of flooding the site with ads, analytics or paywals.

[–] static@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So when scaling up

You expect that : costs per user rise and donations per user drop?

I expect that: costs per user drop, donations per user stay the same, and external subsidies rise.

[–] lesnake@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Basically yes, but I also assume the cost per users drops/stays the same

I think the next ppl joining are mostly teens who dont consider donating,but would consider occasionally buying something like awards

I doubt external subsidies can cover the missing donations.

Edit: Also I assume ppl in their early 20s are more likely to buy awards than donate.

[–] static@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And even then there could be donated vs award servers.
I prefer to focus on the donated ones.

It was a bit mean/dishonest from me to frame costs for you.
my guess of dounations just does not match yours.

[–] lesnake@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I assume you that awards are optional for each server.

How would you determine if awards are enabled? The server of the community or the server where the account was created?

[–] static@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You do not, awards do not propogate to other servers.

[–] static@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm anti awards and status. donations on feel good works good enough to cover the expenses.