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Okay that's cool can you quote the anti-Semitic thing that he said? I am not finding it.
You think maybe the IDF edited that Wikipedia page?
Does the link not work for you? It loads for a while but opens for me. Here's the full article in picture form.
I think this is the part Wikipedia is citing:
"A vision statement on its website embraces Brexit, denounces the Labour Party for remaining "committed to capitalism" and suggests its former leader Jeremy Corbyn, "Was harangued as an anti-Semite in a disgraceful campaign of Goebbelsian fiction".
The party has also gone on record to defend former Labour members Chris Williamson and Ken Livingstone.
Former Derbyshire MP Mr Williamson was suspended by the party after saying Labour had been "too apologetic" over anti-Semitism, while former London mayor Mr Livingstone resigned his membership after being accused of making anti-Semitic comments.
Mr Carpenter stood by the Workers Party's position and insisted both men had done nothing wrong.
He said: "People aren't questioning this narrative that's been put to them from the centre. They all play the same game, whether it's Labour, the Tories, the Lib Dems or even the Greens.""
Uhh, I have no idea? I mean from the Wakefield Express article and just googling it looks like there's been some actual antisemitism row about this party, so it's not made up (the row/allegations I mean), if that's what you meant.
Jeremy Corbyn is a UK hero lauded for not bending the knee to the israeli lobby. Which famously always try to picture him as anti-semitic because he says Free Palestine.
Your link contains no anti-Semitic statement. I'm asking you once again, can you quote the anti-Semitic statement? Surely if he said anything anti-Semitic it shouldn't be hard for you to find.
I'm not sure if you think I'm the one making the argument or if you just want my help in finding what the allegations are about. Please clarify.
Searching for "Corbyn antisemitism" it seems like the row is mostly about his actions or rather in-action against alleged antisemitism. Well, not counting this
We're talking about George Galloway here.
Also your evidence is that Corbyn praised another person's book which contains one specific line? Did Corbyn praise that particular line? Or did someone read the entire book the conveniently find it and even remove part of a sentence?
You are reaching really hard here. As I said, show me the anti-Semitism from Galloway.
You seem to have completely misunderstood what is happening here. You seem to be under the impression that we are debating about whether the party is antisemitic or not, while I just shared that they've had their share of allegations about antisemitism, which is really not subject to debate (or shouldn't be) but rather just something that has happened.
He seems to have been under constant accusations of antisemitism. Not the best move to call a book that has lines like that a "great tome" if you ask me. Fuel to fire, at the very least. And I don't think he denied the antisemitism in the book, but called it a "work of its time". That's a terrible look no matter which way you look at it.
But in any case, I'm not here to debate Corbyn's antisemitism. I just said that this party's allegations of antisemitism comes partly from their defence of Corby who has had plenty of allegations himself.
I get that you want to debate me on this antisemitism or clear the name of these parties or persons, but I was just saying that the party has had plenty of allegations. Wikipedia article bringing them up doesn't seem particularly sus since the allegations are real, no matter how we view the veracity of those allegations.
Yes that is a from 1903 book which contains one line which Corbyn never said he agreed with. It was not written by Corbyn. In all old books you can find and cherry pick lines that are currently not fully accepted. Make sure you never read an MLK speech you'd condemn the heck out of em.
Wow very anti-semitic. So many allegations of Corbyn supporting Gaza against their Genocidal oppressor. He must be super anti-Semitic.
Anything serious? I have read the zero effort copy pastes you brought. Please find an actual quote or don't respond.
I'm not sure if you're trying to explain the situation to me or what, but it was never unclear. The article talked about all this. And I don't think you typically write the foreword to a book yourself to begin with. It's just a terrible look to have this "great tome" comment and your foreword on a book that has antisemitic stuff like that.
"Fully accepted", it was just the straight up Jews control the banks stuff. It has probably been fully accepted last time in the 40s hah.
This was the part you should've read:
"You seem to have completely misunderstood what is happening here. You seem to be under the impression that we are debating about whether the party is antisemitic or not, while I just shared that they’ve had their share of allegations about antisemitism, which is really not subject to debate (or shouldn’t be) but rather just something that has happened."
"I get that you want to debate me on this antisemitism or clear the name of these parties or persons, but I was just saying that the party has had plenty of allegations. Wikipedia article bringing them up doesn’t seem particularly sus since the allegations are real, no matter how we view the veracity of those allegations."
The allegation you linked was basically Corbyn saying Free Palestine and an israeli lobby calling it anti-Semitic. And he said that israel committed Genocide, which is supposedly also anti-Semitic. Is everyone one Lemmy anti-Semitic too?
Are you talking about the Wikipedia article?
Yes did you read it before posting it?
I did and the top articles that came up when searching it. Not all of them because there's been loads, it seems.
Yes and they are all from people that call criticism of israel anti-Semitic. Do you realize that?
It really doesn't seem like that if you go through the different accusations. But again, what I said was
I don't think we disagree on that?
No we do disagree on that. If I post 20 comments accusing you of murder without any evidence you don't have "a lot of allegations that you committed murder."
This is clearly a futile converstation
I mean if you'd have 20 people accusing me of the same thing over the years I'd think it's fair to say I've had quite a few lemmings accusing me of murder. If you put that into my Wikipedia article I'd be fine with that.
I mean I tried to explain what I said but you've just wanted to take it in all kinds of directions. It might not always be a fruitful convo if you do that.