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[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I consider this to be a bad development. I could see Facebook/Meta aggressively growing to become the "default" server, then squashing everybody else. Not to mention all the US intelligence fuckery that will be potentially happening.

We laugh at this now, but in a few months we might have server admins enforcing Meta TOS on their users for fear of being cut out from the biggest part of the Fediverse.

I'd propose that right from the get-go, a bunch of instances should band together and defederate from Threads.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Defederating from Threads by default is absolutely the right move.

[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Yup, if other corporations follow Threads into the fediverse, history will repeat itself. They'll do to the fediverse what they did to the rest of the internet.

[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 2 points 1 year ago

Can confirm, already defederated them from my lemmy

[–] Marketsupreme@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm out of the loop on what meta is trying to do with lemmy. Can you catch me up?

[–] JoshNautes@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not exactly, Lemmy. But Meta created a new app similar to Twitter and said they will join the Fediverse with this app in the future, só you could potentially interaction with Threads' content with your Lemmy or Mastodon account without having to create a Meta account or downloadind their app.

[–] Marketsupreme@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

God that makes me feel icky

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

This is sort of how Google's Chat tool ended up rolling with the XMPP community. Their initial chat system was federated (this is pre-federation, but the concept was essentially the same) with the XMPP servers of the world. You could use their pre-hangouts Messaging app across the XMPP world.

Then, when Google was unhappy with how the XMPP standards were moving they defederated, replaced their entire protocol and stole the user base from the XMPP community.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly meta should federate with a different social media company with a large userbase (ie twitter if they joined the fediverse for some reason)

[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to disagree, but I think that's really unlikely, unless they do a corporate merge.

Honestly, this is the biggest part that's bugging me about it the most. Meta is probably doing this to ride on the wave of the Reddit exodus, but it's not unreasonable to assume that other corporations will follow suit if Threads succeeds. And when that happens it'll be like the internet all over again. Corporations coming in and setting up ad-infested data-gathering fiefdoms that will squeeze everyone else out.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

That's exactly why we should not federate with platforms that are so much bigger