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[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree. Major parties are increasingly at odds with voter sentiment, then everyone pretends to be surprised when voters turn to smaller parties. Migration is a massive issue in Europe following the 2015 Refugee Crisis. Very little has been done to solve the resulting major social issues. Instead, many parties are doubling down on policies which have been a complete failure.

Denmark is a really interesting case study. Their large leftwing party started losing votes on the migration issue, so they stole policies from the right and implemented them in a softer, more moderate manner. They proceeded to dominate polls for years. I don’t understand why leftwing parties across Europe don’t replicate that. Surely it is preferable to be in the driver’s seat to shape how migration is controlled, rather than being relegated to being a spectator for the next decade.

Oh well, no use crying over spilled milk. Democracy will prevail and Europeans will ultimately decide the fate of their nations.

[–] nemesis_aorta@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

From everything I've heard about Denmark's immigration policies, I can only describe them as inhumane racist scums. They don't even treat the immigrants as people.

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well that’s not true at all. Denmark arguably offers the best refugee benefits and support programs in the entire world. They’re extremely expensive, hence the desire to keep refugee numbers at a sustainable rate, and minimise people who abuse the system. It’s very common in Europe for people from poor countries to burn their passports before entering Europe, travel all the way up to Denmark, passing many safe countries, then claim asylum while pretending to be from a country at war. It’s very difficult to expel these migrants because it’s hard to determine where they’re from. Even if we do, often their home countries won’t take them back.

[–] nemesis_aorta@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You say that the Danish system tries to avoid people trying to abuse the system, but here’s my problem with that: Where do you draw the line for abuse? Do you think that people from poor countries don’t deserve a better chance at life? Even if they lied about escaping war, they probably did it out of fear of being sent back to their home countries. They immigrated the way they did, because Denmark or other EU countries wouldn’t have granted them visas to travel there legally. People “abusing” the system is very broad & could be a lot of things including sending people home for “only” wanting to escape poverty.

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Where do you draw the line for abuse?

I can answer that very succinctly: those seeking to falsely invoke the articles under the 1951 Refugee Convention.

There are six billion people on the planet who are poorer than Danish citizens. Denmark is a tiny country. They can’t all fit in Denmark. That’s not a solution to global poverty.

[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You have to understand the rich country side. They cannot just accept anyone and everyone, their economy would collapse and then the country would just be as shitty as the one refugees are trying to escape.