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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There is already a deal from Hamas on the table and it has been called very reasonable by all parties except israel (especially Netanyahu) who doesn't want peace.

Hamas rejected this nothing-burger deal that would make them give away all the hostages so they don't get bombed for a few weeks and then israel annexes Gaza afterwards.

This would only delay annexation, not prevent it.

[–] theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The deal proposed by Hamas counted with the fact Hamas would stay in power. Any deal similar where Hamas stays in power is not reasonable.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Any deal with the fact that Netanyahu and his Likud party stays in power are not reasonable either. Do we demand to throw out the entire israeli government too?

Our famous terrorist friend Nelson Mandela and his ANC party also stayed in power after their terrorism.

[–] theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

There is a big difference that Mandela didn't want to exterminate white people, unlike Hamas.

Edit: But I believe that condition from Hamas that likud and the rest of extremists shouldn't lead Israel would be valid and I would be the first to support it.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Is is a complicated history but even the Hamas founding charter, which is certainly unreasonable in its fundamentalism with Sharia Law and is antisemitic, does not call for the extermination of all Jewish People. That's a lie, and also intentionally ignores the 2017 Revised charter. Check Article 7 and 13 of the 1988 Charter to see yourself, compare it to Article 20 and 24-26 in the revised version too. Hamas has committed atrocious acts, there's no need to make things up about Hamas to show they've done terrible things. Ending the occupation and having a Palestinian election for the Palestinian people to choose their own leadership is the way to diminish support for Hamas and other Armed resistance groups. Further terrorizing the West Bank and Gaza will only increase their support, which has been shown historically not only within the Occupied Palestinian Territories but throughout history.

Hamas founding charter and Revised charter 2017

History of Hamas supported by Netanyahu since 2012

Gaza Blockade is still Occupation

Dahiya Doctrine

Gaza March for Return Protest

Apartheid

AWRAD Gaza War Poll

PCPSR Public Opinion Poll Dec 2023

[–] theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com -3 points 9 months ago

Even if their testaments mention that they don’t want the to exterminate Israel, their actions say otherwise.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

There's Christians living in Gaza being sniped by the IDF not by Hamas. Explain to me how that works