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[–] Protegee9850@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really generous estimation of the hellscape we’re leaving for our descendants. This IS the glory days. It’s all downhill from here.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A sentiment as old as civilization. Hasn't been right yet.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What?

You think no human civilization has ended?

Before it was on a local scale and humanity just moved around or survived elsewhere.

Humanity might survive climate change or nuclear war, but this global civilization would not unless we prevent it

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, people have been saying the end is coming soon for thousands of years. It's also fun to research the oldest historical accounts complaining about "kids these days".

This perspective that the end actually is soon requires some heavy cherry picking, where you ignore the evidence that it might not be. This is related to the perspective I was initially describing. People want to see something cool, maybe the end of the world even.

They're probably not going to though, they'll probably die of old age in a world that somewhat resembles this one.

[–] BeardyGrumps@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let me first clarify that I do believe climate change is real and something that we need urgent action on.

However in my 50+ years on this planet there has always been something to keep the people in fear and usually with cataclysmic consequences. In my lifetime the world or humanity should have ended already due to nuclear war, nuclear energy, peak oil, famine, over population, super weather (floods/hurricanes), acid rain, ozone layer depletion, y2k, ocean death, ice age (predicted in the 70’s), Yellowstone park eruptions, asteroid impacts, etc

The problem is when you have lived your entire life hearing that the end of humanity is near, you become desensitised to it and so when we do face a global catastrophe we are so apathetic.

Found this article interesting on the subject:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Very good point, thank you for the contribution. It does create a certain ... complacency.

[–] anlumo@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe look into the Bronze Age Collapse. It has happened before.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yet we are still here. No single civilization needs last forever, no single way of doing things ever will. But we will remain. Likely still technological, likely still modern.

[–] anlumo@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It took civilization thousands of years to recover from that collapse. This is not something to be simply dismissed.

Also, in the case of Climate Change, it will take millions of years for Earth to recover once our civilization has collapsed, this is an even bigger hurdle.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

It took hundreds of years for a few civilizations to recover. Other regions were untouched. You are cherry picking.

[–] Protegee9850@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then it’s pretty bold of you to be making generalizations and predictions in your wall of text OP.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yea, I won't argue with that. I'm a fairly bold individual.