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You don't have to strictly be for killing them, you can just be against their existence, and someone else will take that to its logical conclusion.
"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest"
I think it is true that Christians who are against violence against trans people should be far more vocal over it. But the general thing I hear isn't really wanting to get rid of trans people, more of if they should be validated as their desired gender or not, or how children should be approached about the topic.
the existence of trans people is quite literally conditional on them being validated as their desired gender.
if you don't validate them, then when they keep doing trans stuff (like transitioning), you will freak out and attempt to stop them. For example by sending them to conversion therapy. And it should be obvious to any basically humanist person why that's a bad idea.
No, because there are no effective conversion therapies that work, and it can make the situation worse. It's not a binary. You don't have to choose between "oh yeah sure let's change the signs on bathrooms! You can compete in women's sports and be in women spaces, too! Oh and please go and tell these children all about your sex change!" and "send them all to conversion therapy at gunpoint". I don't know why you keep jumping to conclusions so quickly and freak out at me stating the fact that killing people is abhorrent. Because apparently I am not allowed to condemn the murder of a young girl because I, like 2.38 billion other people, think that Jesus of Nazareth from 2024 years ago made a convincing case for actually being God.
and also what is the alternative you propose that's neither acceptance or forced conversion?
"separate but equal"? "keep that stuff at home"? no thank you, i'd rather be part of society. separate but equal is never actually equal.
I didn't propose anything. I'm not a politician, lol
I assume have something to say about it, or you wouldn't be posting trying to defend your opinion.
So far I've seen that you don't want to kill us and you don't want to try to force us to stop existing, but you don't seem to want to accept us either. so what else is there?
I just don't want to be infiltrated by it personally. I love you and accept you as a human being. I am against anything that may put women in danger or mislead children. If you don't want to do that, then I don't really care. You should know that you are loved and are human like the rest of us. You aren't anything less or more than me. And I don't think any less of you for your gender identity, and I wish other Christians stopped being so aggressive about that either.
Except when it comes to abortions, than you are all for putting women in danger.
What does this even mean?
You literally asked what I meant by it after trying to 'respond' to me saying what I meant. Lol.
This made me chuckle because that's exactly how I read the posts. I was like.. what? Okay. Sounds like how my mom used to argue with me. "What do you mean? You meant this! That's what you meant! Don't explain yourself now, I already caught you in an inconsistency! I didn't put words in your mouth, you did!" LOL moms.
Not really. First was just a dig at your inconsistencies. Second was a try to get your actual opinion out of you.
Competing in women's sports and participating in women's spaces is part of existing as a woman. And if you accept that trans people exist and aren't inherently harmful or disgusting, then children learning about their existence isn't so bad either.
btw the bathroom thing is just common sense. if a bathroom is single occupancy, it shouldn't be gender separated. this has little to do with trans people.