this post was submitted on 20 Feb 2024
375 points (99.0% liked)
Mildly Interesting
17498 readers
98 users here now
This is for strictly mildly interesting material. If it's too interesting, it doesn't belong. If it's not interesting, it doesn't belong.
This is obviously an objective criteria, so the mods are always right. Or maybe mildly right? Ahh.. what do we know?
Just post some stuff and don't spam.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I'm gonna assume you're not from the US given your lemmy instance. In the US most police radios transmit "in the clear", i.e., not encrypted. As such, anyone can buy a "police scanner", or a radio on the same band as police/first-responder frequencies.
In the internet age, there's websites (and apparently apps now too), that physically monitor these radio channels and stream them online. Hence, a "police scanner app". Hope that helps.
Having typed all that out, the only thing I ask is to let us know where you're from, please.
The police very much care, and want to be able to encrypt all their traffic.
It’s open for public transparency, mostly.
https://www.rcfp.org/police-radio-encryption-trend/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/03/new-york-police-encrypt-radio-nypd-transparency?ref=biztoc.com
And I fully support this. It shouldn't be encrypted because they're serving the citizens.
There is an argument to be made that there’s a public security interest to encrypt some traffic, like when they call in someone’s information to run a check on them. And I think that’s a legit concern.
There are some fully encrypted systems (which cops want), and there are some hybrid systems, which are more expensive but would keep transparency in place for the population. Those systems work a variety of ways, such as putting the live comms on a 30-minute delay when there’s a big incident, and fully blocking personal information from citizens.
I think the latter is what they should be using, with very very very specific and clear rules on when they can and cannot encrypt, with regular external audits of the encrypted portion to verify no misuse. But if they won’t go hybrid and submit to inspection, leave it wide open. It’s more important that we have transparency (at this moment in time, due to police behavior), which is a thing I really really hate to say but it’s true..
Normal stuff is in the clear. When they're going to do a raid or talk about sensitive stuff they do switch to an encrypted method of communication. Nobody is listening to the scanner and getting warned that their drug lab is about to be hit.
Well... Not nobody.
So wait need for speed radio chatter could be something street racers actually had??? I had no idea, I always thought it was kind of silly
Yes, although many departments are switching to encrypted radios. It's a minor political issue, because it fundamentally means less oversight, but also in the event of a major riot or coordinated civil unrest you also might not want to broadcast patrol routed unencrypted.
One of the Mexican countries
Sooooo, Mexico or New Mexico?
Some time ago some American politician used the phrase unironically. Most speculated they were referring to Latin American countries, but since the politician was a republican and correcting themselves is anathema, we'll never know.
Anyway, it's become a favorite of mine to repeat this, tongue in cheek.
You assume correctly, UK. Seems kind of crazy, but the other reply chain explains it.